Near midair collision between 2 small aircraft sel aircraft turning base leg in uncontrolled traffic...

Attributes
ACN	308398
Time
Date	199505
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : hmt
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 600 flight time type : 400
ASRS Report	308398
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac other anomaly other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 50 vertical : 10
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

I was with a student doing touch and go's. In the pattern and just after turning left base for runway 23, my student saw an airplane approximately 50-75 ft away beginning to turn away. He must have seen us first. He was a low wing. We were listening on the radio for incoming traffic but heard no one. After the incident we called him up (and yes we knew his north# intimately). He replied and said he did make the radio call. Unfortunately, we didn't have a good receiver or he didn't have a good transmitter because we could barely hear him. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that he was operating an T-41 military aircraft (cessna 172) at the time of this near midair collision. There was no FAA investigation or other investigation of this matter.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NMAC BTWN 2 SMA SEL ACFT TURNING BASE LEG IN UNCTLED TFC PATTERN.

Narrative: I WAS WITH A STUDENT DOING TOUCH AND GO'S. IN THE PATTERN AND JUST AFTER TURNING L BASE FOR RWY 23, MY STUDENT SAW AN AIRPLANE APPROX 50-75 FT AWAY BEGINNING TO TURN AWAY. HE MUST HAVE SEEN US FIRST. HE WAS A LOW WING. WE WERE LISTENING ON THE RADIO FOR INCOMING TFC BUT HEARD NO ONE. AFTER THE INCIDENT WE CALLED HIM UP (AND YES WE KNEW HIS N# INTIMATELY). HE REPLIED AND SAID HE DID MAKE THE RADIO CALL. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD RECEIVER OR HE DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD XMITTER BECAUSE WE COULD BARELY HEAR HIM. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT HE WAS OPERATING AN T-41 MIL ACFT (CESSNA 172) AT THE TIME OF THIS NMAC. THERE WAS NO FAA INVESTIGATION OR OTHER INVESTIGATION OF THIS MATTER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Near midair collision between 2 small aircraft sel aircraft turning base leg in uncontrolled traffic pattern.