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Attributes | |
ACN | 309440 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 625 |
ASRS Report | 309440 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During climb out, told student to climb to 4000 ft to do stalls. At 3900 ft, I realized that we climbed extremely fast, possibly due to cool WX and we appeared to be on the edge of the outer ring of class 'B' airspace. The floor at this point is 4000 ft. I descended to 3500 ft. Don't know how close I really was. I need to be more aware of the climb rate and maintain only 3500 ft until past some known landmarks.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR PLT RPTR MAY HAVE ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: DURING CLB OUT, TOLD STUDENT TO CLB TO 4000 FT TO DO STALLS. AT 3900 FT, I REALIZED THAT WE CLBED EXTREMELY FAST, POSSIBLY DUE TO COOL WX AND WE APPEARED TO BE ON THE EDGE OF THE OUTER RING OF CLASS 'B' AIRSPACE. THE FLOOR AT THIS POINT IS 4000 FT. I DSNDED TO 3500 FT. DON'T KNOW HOW CLOSE I REALLY WAS. I NEED TO BE MORE AWARE OF THE CLB RATE AND MAINTAIN ONLY 3500 FT UNTIL PAST SOME KNOWN LANDMARKS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.