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Attributes | |
ACN | 310380 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cfb |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 310380 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were en route from syr (syracuse, ny) to phl (philadelphia, PA), at 12000 ft awaiting climb clearance to cruise altitude. ZNY (133.35) issued traffic at 13000 ft at our 2 O'clock position and 10 mi. At about 5 mi we saw the traffic, a twin cessna. We reported the traffic in sight and were issued clearance to a higher altitude. We maintained visual contact with the traffic and began a climb. As we did so we got a traffic alert and then a RA on TCASII. I watched the traffic pass behind us at the 4 O'clock position and about 3 mi. We continued the climb and did not respond to the RA. In my opinion there was not a conflict, though the standard IFR separation did not exist. Again, we maintained visual separation while climbing with reference to the other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PUB AVAILABILITY -- ACR CREW RPTS THAT THEY MADE A CLB AS CLRED BY THE ARTCC RADAR CTLR USING THEIR VISUAL SEPARATION.
Narrative: WE WERE ENRTE FROM SYR (SYRACUSE, NY) TO PHL (PHILADELPHIA, PA), AT 12000 FT AWAITING CLB CLRNC TO CRUISE ALT. ZNY (133.35) ISSUED TFC AT 13000 FT AT OUR 2 O'CLOCK POS AND 10 MI. AT ABOUT 5 MI WE SAW THE TFC, A TWIN CESSNA. WE RPTED THE TFC IN SIGHT AND WERE ISSUED CLRNC TO A HIGHER ALT. WE MAINTAINED VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE TFC AND BEGAN A CLB. AS WE DID SO WE GOT A TFC ALERT AND THEN A RA ON TCASII. I WATCHED THE TFC PASS BEHIND US AT THE 4 O'CLOCK POS AND ABOUT 3 MI. WE CONTINUED THE CLB AND DID NOT RESPOND TO THE RA. IN MY OPINION THERE WAS NOT A CONFLICT, THOUGH THE STANDARD IFR SEPARATION DID NOT EXIST. AGAIN, WE MAINTAINED VISUAL SEPARATION WHILE CLBING WITH REF TO THE OTHER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.