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Attributes | |
ACN | 310424 |
Time | |
Date | 199506 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mcc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2100 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 150 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 270 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 310424 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I had a new altimeter installed in my C150. I flew an IFR training flight and was having trouble holding altitude. At one point ATC reported a 150-200 ft discrepancy in altitude. On the ground I came to the conclusion that I had been off in my altitude setting. I flew again and was in contact with ZOA climbing, then was handed over to suu and subsequently sac, when I went to adjust the altitude set that suu gave me. I saw it was reading hg 28 inghes hg. I was busy under the hood and thought I had inadvertently turned the knob too far. My instructor put in the right setting. When I began my approach to sac the controller queried our altitude. It turned out the altimeter was reading 1400 ft higher than we were! We broke off the approach and headed for home base in cavu conditions. While talking to suu on the return it turned out that their altitude reading equipment was inoperative which is why our altitude discrepancy had not been picked up earlier. Fortunately we were in VFR conditions that particular day. If I had been IFR with a failed altimeter and radar inoperative near the napa hills I could have ended up just another pilot error statistic. I had a hand held GPS but the altitude readout is unreliable. What concerns me is the general lack of concern by the avionics people that a brand new instrument failed so dramatically. Moral: don't trust even a brand new instrument. I will also pay closer attention to make sure that altimeter settings/altimeter readout match closely and not assume the error is mine and monitor throughout flight. P.south. As I was doing quite a bit of maneuvering it didn't become obvious visually that the altitude was so far off until we started our descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C150 HAS FAULTY ALTIMETER. ON IFR FLT TRAINING.
Narrative: I HAD A NEW ALTIMETER INSTALLED IN MY C150. I FLEW AN IFR TRAINING FLT AND WAS HAVING TROUBLE HOLDING ALT. AT ONE POINT ATC RPTED A 150-200 FT DISCREPANCY IN ALT. ON THE GND I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT I HAD BEEN OFF IN MY ALT SETTING. I FLEW AGAIN AND WAS IN CONTACT WITH ZOA CLBING, THEN WAS HANDED OVER TO SUU AND SUBSEQUENTLY SAC, WHEN I WENT TO ADJUST THE ALT SET THAT SUU GAVE ME. I SAW IT WAS READING HG 28 INGHES HG. I WAS BUSY UNDER THE HOOD AND THOUGHT I HAD INADVERTENTLY TURNED THE KNOB TOO FAR. MY INSTRUCTOR PUT IN THE RIGHT SETTING. WHEN I BEGAN MY APCH TO SAC THE CTLR QUERIED OUR ALT. IT TURNED OUT THE ALTIMETER WAS READING 1400 FT HIGHER THAN WE WERE! WE BROKE OFF THE APCH AND HEADED FOR HOME BASE IN CAVU CONDITIONS. WHILE TALKING TO SUU ON THE RETURN IT TURNED OUT THAT THEIR ALT READING EQUIP WAS INOP WHICH IS WHY OUR ALT DISCREPANCY HAD NOT BEEN PICKED UP EARLIER. FORTUNATELY WE WERE IN VFR CONDITIONS THAT PARTICULAR DAY. IF I HAD BEEN IFR WITH A FAILED ALTIMETER AND RADAR INOP NEAR THE NAPA HILLS I COULD HAVE ENDED UP JUST ANOTHER PLT ERROR STATISTIC. I HAD A HAND HELD GPS BUT THE ALT READOUT IS UNRELIABLE. WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THE GENERAL LACK OF CONCERN BY THE AVIONICS PEOPLE THAT A BRAND NEW INST FAILED SO DRAMATICALLY. MORAL: DON'T TRUST EVEN A BRAND NEW INST. I WILL ALSO PAY CLOSER ATTN TO MAKE SURE THAT ALTIMETER SETTINGS/ALTIMETER READOUT MATCH CLOSELY AND NOT ASSUME THE ERROR IS MINE AND MONITOR THROUGHOUT FLT. P.S. AS I WAS DOING QUITE A BIT OF MANEUVERING IT DIDN'T BECOME OBVIOUS VISUALLY THAT THE ALT WAS SO FAR OFF UNTIL WE STARTED OUR DSCNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.