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Flight crew of an medium large transport failed to make the altitude crossing restr during 2 of the 3 fixes during climb out on a SID.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 310500 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199507 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sjc |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11850 msl bound upper : 12000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 310500 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Climbing out of san jose on the loup 9 departure. I am captain and PNF. Departure gave clearance to cross sjc VOR at 12000 ft. First officer started turn to VOR. I thought we were a little close but said nothing. Departure asked if we would be able to cross at 12000 ft. We replied in the affirmative, knew that it would be close but thought we would make it. Instructed to switch to center. We ended up crossing approximately 150 ft low. Then proceeded on loup 9 to 8 DME fix to cross at or above 14000 ft. We crossed this approximately 200 ft low. Center never made any comment on our altitude. As the captain I should have been more involved and vocalized my feelings of turning a little short. It is easy to become complacent when not flying and then realizing that things are not right when it is too late. Not really a safety item but definitely not a professional altitude. In the future I will make sure we have plenty of room, and vocalize my feelings sooner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MLG FAILED TO MAKE THE ALT XING RESTR DURING 2 OF THE 3 FIXES DURING CLB OUT ON A SID.
Narrative: CLBING OUT OF SAN JOSE ON THE LOUP 9 DEP. I AM CAPT AND PNF. DEP GAVE CLRNC TO CROSS SJC VOR AT 12000 FT. FO STARTED TURN TO VOR. I THOUGHT WE WERE A LITTLE CLOSE BUT SAID NOTHING. DEP ASKED IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CROSS AT 12000 FT. WE REPLIED IN THE AFFIRMATIVE, KNEW THAT IT WOULD BE CLOSE BUT THOUGHT WE WOULD MAKE IT. INSTRUCTED TO SWITCH TO CTR. WE ENDED UP XING APPROX 150 FT LOW. THEN PROCEEDED ON LOUP 9 TO 8 DME FIX TO CROSS AT OR ABOVE 14000 FT. WE CROSSED THIS APPROX 200 FT LOW. CTR NEVER MADE ANY COMMENT ON OUR ALT. AS THE CAPT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE INVOLVED AND VOCALIZED MY FEELINGS OF TURNING A LITTLE SHORT. IT IS EASY TO BECOME COMPLACENT WHEN NOT FLYING AND THEN REALIZING THAT THINGS ARE NOT RIGHT WHEN IT IS TOO LATE. NOT REALLY A SAFETY ITEM BUT DEFINITELY NOT A PROFESSIONAL ALT. IN THE FUTURE I WILL MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM, AND VOCALIZE MY FEELINGS SOONER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.