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Attributes | |
ACN | 310990 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : psp |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 16200 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : v372 enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 310990 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Missed bands crossing restr on descent into sna. On descent into sna we were cleared to cross bands at 14000 ft. The captain was flying and we saw that we were not going to be able to make the restr. I told ZLA we were not able to make the restr and their reply was to do the best you can. I then asked if the restr at bands was lifted and center said, no the restr is not lifted, do the best you can. We crossed bands at 16200 ft with no apparent conflict.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LGT FAILED TO MAKE A STAR XING RESTR.
Narrative: MISSED BANDS XING RESTR ON DSCNT INTO SNA. ON DSCNT INTO SNA WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS BANDS AT 14000 FT. THE CAPT WAS FLYING AND WE SAW THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE RESTR. I TOLD ZLA WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THE RESTR AND THEIR REPLY WAS TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN. I THEN ASKED IF THE RESTR AT BANDS WAS LIFTED AND CTR SAID, NO THE RESTR IS NOT LIFTED, DO THE BEST YOU CAN. WE CROSSED BANDS AT 16200 FT WITH NO APPARENT CONFLICT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.