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Attributes | |
ACN | 311499 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pie |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340B |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 311499 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were flying a sf-3, tpa to pns. There were a lot of thunderstorms around and our dispatch said a route up the coast or slightly off shore was best. After takeoff departure and center gave us a 340 degree heading thus taking us along the coast to out over the gulf. We were then given V97 to V521. Our radar indicated WX in that area and we asked if it would be any problem going left around it. We were led to believe this would be no problem. At about this time thunderstorms started developing rapidly to our east (near shore) and ahead. We were able to get through a small hole ahead with some turbulence and lightning. The area ahead and to our right grew extremely fast with almost continuous lightning. At this point center gave us a heading to our right directly at the most severe radar return. We said we were unable, he said we had to because we were nearing a warning area. (Our TCASII showed no aircraft from surface to 20000 ft within 40 mi in that area). After several attempts to comply with vector without flying into thunderstorms we were unable and advised that we would rather fly into a warning area than a very severe thunderstorm. We flew northwest toward pfn without incident. In all fairness, after watching the WX channel at the hotel and talking to our dispatch, the area blew up very fast and was moving southwest out over the gulf. But center should never give vectors into what had to show on their scope as very heavy WX and after our reports of the WX.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN MDT PENETRATED A WARNING AREA WHEN ATTEMPTING TO AVOID SEVERE TSTMS.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING A SF-3, TPA TO PNS. THERE WERE A LOT OF TSTMS AROUND AND OUR DISPATCH SAID A RTE UP THE COAST OR SLIGHTLY OFF SHORE WAS BEST. AFTER TKOF DEP AND CTR GAVE US A 340 DEG HDG THUS TAKING US ALONG THE COAST TO OUT OVER THE GULF. WE WERE THEN GIVEN V97 TO V521. OUR RADAR INDICATED WX IN THAT AREA AND WE ASKED IF IT WOULD BE ANY PROB GOING L AROUND IT. WE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THIS WOULD BE NO PROB. AT ABOUT THIS TIME TSTMS STARTED DEVELOPING RAPIDLY TO OUR E (NEAR SHORE) AND AHEAD. WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH A SMALL HOLE AHEAD WITH SOME TURB AND LIGHTNING. THE AREA AHEAD AND TO OUR R GREW EXTREMELY FAST WITH ALMOST CONTINUOUS LIGHTNING. AT THIS POINT CTR GAVE US A HDG TO OUR R DIRECTLY AT THE MOST SEVERE RADAR RETURN. WE SAID WE WERE UNABLE, HE SAID WE HAD TO BECAUSE WE WERE NEARING A WARNING AREA. (OUR TCASII SHOWED NO ACFT FROM SURFACE TO 20000 FT WITHIN 40 MI IN THAT AREA). AFTER SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO COMPLY WITH VECTOR WITHOUT FLYING INTO TSTMS WE WERE UNABLE AND ADVISED THAT WE WOULD RATHER FLY INTO A WARNING AREA THAN A VERY SEVERE TSTM. WE FLEW NW TOWARD PFN WITHOUT INCIDENT. IN ALL FAIRNESS, AFTER WATCHING THE WX CHANNEL AT THE HOTEL AND TALKING TO OUR DISPATCH, THE AREA BLEW UP VERY FAST AND WAS MOVING SW OUT OVER THE GULF. BUT CTR SHOULD NEVER GIVE VECTORS INTO WHAT HAD TO SHOW ON THEIR SCOPE AS VERY HVY WX AND AFTER OUR RPTS OF THE WX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.