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Attributes | |
ACN | 314920 |
Time | |
Date | 199508 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bda |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : txkf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : on vectors enroute : other oceanic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 8300 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 314920 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Programmed omega units with filed routing. Distance to airport reference point checked out as did the coast out check using the rbv VOR, we never really flew our filed routing due to radar vectors and 'cleared directs.' number 2 omega was used to fly the aircraft and number 1 was backup. Cleared direct to targa intersection, when reporting targa ATC advised we were 33 NM northeast of the point. On ground at bda noted the distance to airport reference point showed 36 NM on the number 2 omega and the number 1 omega showed on airport. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated he was flying the B727-200. Normally one omega would be in cross track angle and the other in distance and bearing with the HSI of the captain and first officer selected to their respective omega. In this case, the captain was selected to VOR DME of bermuda which had not come in range. The time from the known position to known error of 30 mi was about an hour.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ONE OF 2 OF FLC'S OMEGAS GOES IN ERROR OVER 30 MI RESULTING IN GROSS NAV ERROR.
Narrative: PROGRAMMED OMEGA UNITS WITH FILED ROUTING. DISTANCE TO ARPT REFERENCE POINT CHKED OUT AS DID THE COAST OUT CHK USING THE RBV VOR, WE NEVER REALLY FLEW OUR FILED ROUTING DUE TO RADAR VECTORS AND 'CLRED DIRECTS.' NUMBER 2 OMEGA WAS USED TO FLY THE ACFT AND NUMBER 1 WAS BACKUP. CLRED DIRECT TO TARGA INTXN, WHEN RPTING TARGA ATC ADVISED WE WERE 33 NM NE OF THE POINT. ON GND AT BDA NOTED THE DISTANCE TO ARPT REFERENCE POINT SHOWED 36 NM ON THE NUMBER 2 OMEGA AND THE NUMBER 1 OMEGA SHOWED ON ARPT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED HE WAS FLYING THE B727-200. NORMALLY ONE OMEGA WOULD BE IN CROSS TRACK ANGLE AND THE OTHER IN DISTANCE AND BEARING WITH THE HSI OF THE CAPT AND FO SELECTED TO THEIR RESPECTIVE OMEGA. IN THIS CASE, THE CAPT WAS SELECTED TO VOR DME OF BERMUDA WHICH HAD NOT COME IN RANGE. THE TIME FROM THE KNOWN POS TO KNOWN ERROR OF 30 MI WAS ABOUT AN HR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.