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Attributes | |
ACN | 316140 |
Time | |
Date | 199509 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hvn |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : hvn tower : mci |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 1950 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 316140 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other other |
Narrative:
On initial contact with ny approach on 127.95 the controller told me to remain clear of what I understood as 'class B airspace.' since the ny class B airspace was nowhere near my flight path I replied I would remain clear. After a change in controller on the same frequency I was advised to contact new haven if I was going to go through their class D airspace. My instruments showed me above and slightly south of new haven's airspace. I would have been even more aware of new haven's airspace if the first controller had said 'delta airspace or bravo airspace.' neither controller used the phonetic alphabet. B and D sound too much alike. The phonetic alphabet should always be used in describing airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL AIRSPACE INTRUSION.
Narrative: ON INITIAL CONTACT WITH NY APCH ON 127.95 THE CTLR TOLD ME TO REMAIN CLR OF WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AS 'CLASS B AIRSPACE.' SINCE THE NY CLASS B AIRSPACE WAS NOWHERE NEAR MY FLT PATH I REPLIED I WOULD REMAIN CLR. AFTER A CHANGE IN CTLR ON THE SAME FREQ I WAS ADVISED TO CONTACT NEW HAVEN IF I WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THEIR CLASS D AIRSPACE. MY INSTS SHOWED ME ABOVE AND SLIGHTLY S OF NEW HAVEN'S AIRSPACE. I WOULD HAVE BEEN EVEN MORE AWARE OF NEW HAVEN'S AIRSPACE IF THE FIRST CTLR HAD SAID 'DELTA AIRSPACE OR BRAVO AIRSPACE.' NEITHER CTLR USED THE PHONETIC ALPHABET. B AND D SOUND TOO MUCH ALIKE. THE PHONETIC ALPHABET SHOULD ALWAYS BE USED IN DESCRIBING AIRSPACE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.