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Attributes | |
ACN | 316204 |
Time | |
Date | 199509 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9300 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 316204 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The captain had received the weight and balance paperwork from the loadmaster and loadmaster and captain agreed to close aircraft door and push back. After pushing back about 100 ft we were starting the #2 engine when the first flight attendant came to the cockpit and advised the third flight attendant was not on board. The ground crew had already disconnected so we then taxied back to the gate and boarded the third flight attendant along with 2 more passenger. We then reverified our weight and balance and pushed back and took off. I believe there was some miscoms between our flight attendants and also between the loadmaster and the gate agent. The third flight attendant, in my opinion, should not have left the aircraft. It was an originating flight and they all 3 must be on board at all times, per the regulations. We as flight deck crew unfortunately haven't got much control of what transpires behind the cockpit door sometimes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLT RETURNS TO GATE AFTER PUSH BACK TO BOARD A MISSING THIRD FLT CABIN ATTENDANT.
Narrative: THE CAPT HAD RECEIVED THE WT AND BAL PAPERWORK FROM THE LOADMASTER AND LOADMASTER AND CAPT AGREED TO CLOSE ACFT DOOR AND PUSH BACK. AFTER PUSHING BACK ABOUT 100 FT WE WERE STARTING THE #2 ENG WHEN THE FIRST FLT ATTENDANT CAME TO THE COCKPIT AND ADVISED THE THIRD FLT ATTENDANT WAS NOT ON BOARD. THE GND CREW HAD ALREADY DISCONNECTED SO WE THEN TAXIED BACK TO THE GATE AND BOARDED THE THIRD FLT ATTENDANT ALONG WITH 2 MORE PAX. WE THEN REVERIFIED OUR WT AND BAL AND PUSHED BACK AND TOOK OFF. I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME MISCOMS BTWN OUR FLT ATTENDANTS AND ALSO BTWN THE LOADMASTER AND THE GATE AGENT. THE THIRD FLT ATTENDANT, IN MY OPINION, SHOULD NOT HAVE LEFT THE ACFT. IT WAS AN ORIGINATING FLT AND THEY ALL 3 MUST BE ON BOARD AT ALL TIMES, PER THE REGS. WE AS FLT DECK CREW UNFORTUNATELY HAVEN'T GOT MUCH CTL OF WHAT TRANSPIRES BEHIND THE COCKPIT DOOR SOMETIMES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.