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Attributes | |
ACN | 318799 |
Time | |
Date | 199510 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6700 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute : on vectors enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 318799 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 319030 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While being vectored by ord approach control I was trying to help my first officer with tips on how to best handle the flight guidance system and autothrottle system controls. Approaching 7000 ft we must have knocked the flight mode annunciator out of altitude hold and we descended past 7000 ft to 6700 ft. Approach controller did not say anything as we corrected quickly back to 7000 ft. Lesson learned here for me is the vigilance required of the captain when trying to help new first officer, especially while flying in a high workload environment. Helpful hints should be held to a minimum in these sits and do the rest on the ground.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SUPER 80 DSNDS BELOW ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED BY ORD APCH CTL I WAS TRYING TO HELP MY FO WITH TIPS ON HOW TO BEST HANDLE THE FLT GUIDANCE SYS AND AUTOTHROTTLE SYS CTLS. APCHING 7000 FT WE MUST HAVE KNOCKED THE FLT MODE ANNUNCIATOR OUT OF ALT HOLD AND WE DSNDED PAST 7000 FT TO 6700 FT. APCH CTLR DID NOT SAY ANYTHING AS WE CORRECTED QUICKLY BACK TO 7000 FT. LESSON LEARNED HERE FOR ME IS THE VIGILANCE REQUIRED OF THE CAPT WHEN TRYING TO HELP NEW FO, ESPECIALLY WHILE FLYING IN A HIGH WORKLOAD ENVIRONMENT. HELPFUL HINTS SHOULD BE HELD TO A MINIMUM IN THESE SITS AND DO THE REST ON THE GND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.