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An air carrier medium large transport crew reports that there is inadequate signage at the high speed taxiway off of runway 13R at dfw.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 320008 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199511 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : emt |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | other other other : other pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 3600 |
| ASRS Report | 320008 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 320007 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Landing runway 13R, dfw. Cleared runway 13R high speed taxiway. Upon talking to ground and getting taxi instructions to join taxiway a, hold short runway 18R, went to company ramp control. Looked up after throwing switch and captain had joined taxiway B. Advised him at that point. He said was doing it from memory. Appeared no problem with ground control. In retrospect, will wait to call company until established on taxiway. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporting first officer agrees with his captain that there are not proper signs at this point off of runway 13R. The captain was new to the aircraft and these crewmen had not flown together before. This incident happened in mid afternoon in good WX with nearly unlimited visibility. Supplemental information from acn 320007: there were no taxi signs visible. I remembered incorrectly, my fault. But why not put some taxiway signs there. I taxied onto taxiway B instead of taxiway a.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG CREW RPTS THAT THERE IS INADEQUATE SIGNAGE AT THE HIGH SPD TXWY OFF OF RWY 13R AT DFW.
Narrative: LNDG RWY 13R, DFW. CLRED RWY 13R HIGH SPD TXWY. UPON TALKING TO GND AND GETTING TAXI INSTRUCTIONS TO JOIN TXWY A, HOLD SHORT RWY 18R, WENT TO COMPANY RAMP CTL. LOOKED UP AFTER THROWING SWITCH AND CAPT HAD JOINED TXWY B. ADVISED HIM AT THAT POINT. HE SAID WAS DOING IT FROM MEMORY. APPEARED NO PROB WITH GND CTL. IN RETROSPECT, WILL WAIT TO CALL COMPANY UNTIL ESTABLISHED ON TXWY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTING FO AGREES WITH HIS CAPT THAT THERE ARE NOT PROPER SIGNS AT THIS POINT OFF OF RWY 13R. THE CAPT WAS NEW TO THE ACFT AND THESE CREWMEN HAD NOT FLOWN TOGETHER BEFORE. THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED IN MID AFTERNOON IN GOOD WX WITH NEARLY UNLIMITED VISIBILITY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 320007: THERE WERE NO TAXI SIGNS VISIBLE. I REMEMBERED INCORRECTLY, MY FAULT. BUT WHY NOT PUT SOME TXWY SIGNS THERE. I TAXIED ONTO TXWY B INSTEAD OF TXWY A.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.