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Attributes | |
ACN | 320453 |
Time | |
Date | 199511 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lrp airport : lns |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 525 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 320453 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 25 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On the day of the near midair collision, harrisburg told me to contact new york on 133.07 for further advisories. At 8000 ft MSL I responded with negative radio capability to reach that frequency. They responded with 'radar service terminated squawk 1200 frequency change approved.' I responded with 'do you want me to keep my current transponder code, and who should I contact.' harrisburg responded 'no, I said squawk 1200 and I can't help you further with whom to contact.' this had never occurred before in the 3 yrs I've flown sky divers at this drop zone. I was confused, should I keep climbing without radar service? Who should I call to notify (1 min) prior to jump? I decided to continue to climb without radar advisories and planned to call '1 min notification and jumpers away' on the unicom frequency. At 9000 ft MSL, or about 1 1/2 min after harrisburg discontinued radar service, I saw another airplane about 100 ft directly above me traveling at a 90 degree angle to my flight path from my right to my left and about 25 ft forward of my position. Because of the high wing on a cessna 182, I was unable to see him approaching from my 3 O'clock position until he was above my windshield. 100 ft was too close for my personal minimums. I feel this close call could be avoided in the future if harrisburg gave us radar service all the way to 10500 ft on a consistent basis and ZNY stayed out of the picture completely. Also, I need to exercise more diligence in watching for other aircraft when flying VFR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PVT PLT OF A SKY DIVING ACFT HAD NMAC DURING CLB WITH ANOTHER ACFT PASSING JUST OVERHEAD.
Narrative: ON THE DAY OF THE NMAC, HARRISBURG TOLD ME TO CONTACT NEW YORK ON 133.07 FOR FURTHER ADVISORIES. AT 8000 FT MSL I RESPONDED WITH NEGATIVE RADIO CAPABILITY TO REACH THAT FREQ. THEY RESPONDED WITH 'RADAR SVC TERMINATED SQUAWK 1200 FREQ CHANGE APPROVED.' I RESPONDED WITH 'DO YOU WANT ME TO KEEP MY CURRENT XPONDER CODE, AND WHO SHOULD I CONTACT.' HARRISBURG RESPONDED 'NO, I SAID SQUAWK 1200 AND I CAN'T HELP YOU FURTHER WITH WHOM TO CONTACT.' THIS HAD NEVER OCCURRED BEFORE IN THE 3 YRS I'VE FLOWN SKY DIVERS AT THIS DROP ZONE. I WAS CONFUSED, SHOULD I KEEP CLBING WITHOUT RADAR SVC? WHO SHOULD I CALL TO NOTIFY (1 MIN) PRIOR TO JUMP? I DECIDED TO CONTINUE TO CLB WITHOUT RADAR ADVISORIES AND PLANNED TO CALL '1 MIN NOTIFICATION AND JUMPERS AWAY' ON THE UNICOM FREQ. AT 9000 FT MSL, OR ABOUT 1 1/2 MIN AFTER HARRISBURG DISCONTINUED RADAR SVC, I SAW ANOTHER AIRPLANE ABOUT 100 FT DIRECTLY ABOVE ME TRAVELING AT A 90 DEG ANGLE TO MY FLT PATH FROM MY R TO MY L AND ABOUT 25 FT FORWARD OF MY POS. BECAUSE OF THE HIGH WING ON A CESSNA 182, I WAS UNABLE TO SEE HIM APCHING FROM MY 3 O'CLOCK POS UNTIL HE WAS ABOVE MY WINDSHIELD. 100 FT WAS TOO CLOSE FOR MY PERSONAL MINIMUMS. I FEEL THIS CLOSE CALL COULD BE AVOIDED IN THE FUTURE IF HARRISBURG GAVE US RADAR SVC ALL THE WAY TO 10500 FT ON A CONSISTENT BASIS AND ZNY STAYED OUT OF THE PICTURE COMPLETELY. ALSO, I NEED TO EXERCISE MORE DILIGENCE IN WATCHING FOR OTHER ACFT WHEN FLYING VFR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.