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Attributes | |
ACN | 321497 |
Time | |
Date | 199511 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star enroute airway : slc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 321497 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I am concerned about the 2 new arrs into slc, the jammn 1 and the spane 1 (dated nov/xa/95 and nov/xb/95). These arrs are readable and understandable as I situation here at my desk with zero airspeed and no distractions. However as speed and distractions increase, the potential to misread or misunderstand these arrs takes an exponential increase. In my opinion, an arrival which involves 'unspoken' mandatory crossing altitudes should be simple (examples: civet 1 to runway 25L at lax or mudde 1 to runway 25R at lax). The jammn and spane require a great deal of time reading the approach while flying it, to ensure compliance. I offer a solution: make each arrival into 2 separate arrs, one landing to the north and a separate arrival landing south. This will simplify the arrival and cut down on reading required thus allowing me to look outside the cockpit. I have flown both arrs numerous times.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NEW ARRS CAUSE FLC CONFUSION.
Narrative: I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE 2 NEW ARRS INTO SLC, THE JAMMN 1 AND THE SPANE 1 (DATED NOV/XA/95 AND NOV/XB/95). THESE ARRS ARE READABLE AND UNDERSTANDABLE AS I SIT HERE AT MY DESK WITH ZERO AIRSPD AND NO DISTRACTIONS. HOWEVER AS SPD AND DISTRACTIONS INCREASE, THE POTENTIAL TO MISREAD OR MISUNDERSTAND THESE ARRS TAKES AN EXPONENTIAL INCREASE. IN MY OPINION, AN ARR WHICH INVOLVES 'UNSPOKEN' MANDATORY XING ALTS SHOULD BE SIMPLE (EXAMPLES: CIVET 1 TO RWY 25L AT LAX OR MUDDE 1 TO RWY 25R AT LAX). THE JAMMN AND SPANE REQUIRE A GREAT DEAL OF TIME READING THE APCH WHILE FLYING IT, TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE. I OFFER A SOLUTION: MAKE EACH ARR INTO 2 SEPARATE ARRS, ONE LNDG TO THE N AND A SEPARATE ARR LNDG S. THIS WILL SIMPLIFY THE ARR AND CUT DOWN ON READING REQUIRED THUS ALLOWING ME TO LOOK OUTSIDE THE COCKPIT. I HAVE FLOWN BOTH ARRS NUMEROUS TIMES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.