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Attributes | |
ACN | 322670 |
Time | |
Date | 199512 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ipl |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla tracon : san |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-90 Series (DC-9-90) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zla |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3400 |
ASRS Report | 322670 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
When loading the FMS on preflight, the FMS database revealed 2 baret. Baret 4 stars 'bar 09' and 'bar 27.' I selected 'bar 27' but my CDU display jumped from 'ipl' to 'swatt' intersection. I then manually typed in the intxns after 'ipl': 'kumba,' 'pillo' 'baret' 'PGY04305.' then I filled in the 'swatt' intersection to close the discontinuity. The flight plan was activated. En route, I typed in the crossing restr of 10000 ft at 'pillo.' on letdown I discover (too late) that although the 'pillo' 10000 ft restr is still on the 'legs' page and 'pillo' is the first check point on the page, the FMS has selected 'baret' as the active waypoint. The 'des' page showed the aircraft on profile, but I'm only 10 mi east of 'pillo' at 16000 ft. We informed la ARTCC we would not be able to cross 'pillo' at 10000 ft, and their reply was 'contact san diego approach control on frequency xxxxx.' checked in with san diego approach control and told them we would be high at 'pillo' and they put us on a vector for lindbergh. I do not understand why the FMS did what it did.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LGT UNDERSHOT XING ALT FIX DUE TO AN FMS PROGRAM PROB.
Narrative: WHEN LOADING THE FMS ON PREFLT, THE FMS DATABASE REVEALED 2 BARET. BARET 4 STARS 'BAR 09' AND 'BAR 27.' I SELECTED 'BAR 27' BUT MY CDU DISPLAY JUMPED FROM 'IPL' TO 'SWATT' INTXN. I THEN MANUALLY TYPED IN THE INTXNS AFTER 'IPL': 'KUMBA,' 'PILLO' 'BARET' 'PGY04305.' THEN I FILLED IN THE 'SWATT' INTXN TO CLOSE THE DISCONTINUITY. THE FLT PLAN WAS ACTIVATED. ENRTE, I TYPED IN THE XING RESTR OF 10000 FT AT 'PILLO.' ON LETDOWN I DISCOVER (TOO LATE) THAT ALTHOUGH THE 'PILLO' 10000 FT RESTR IS STILL ON THE 'LEGS' PAGE AND 'PILLO' IS THE FIRST CHK POINT ON THE PAGE, THE FMS HAS SELECTED 'BARET' AS THE ACTIVE WAYPOINT. THE 'DES' PAGE SHOWED THE ACFT ON PROFILE, BUT I'M ONLY 10 MI E OF 'PILLO' AT 16000 FT. WE INFORMED LA ARTCC WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO CROSS 'PILLO' AT 10000 FT, AND THEIR REPLY WAS 'CONTACT SAN DIEGO APCH CTL ON FREQ XXXXX.' CHKED IN WITH SAN DIEGO APCH CTL AND TOLD THEM WE WOULD BE HIGH AT 'PILLO' AND THEY PUT US ON A VECTOR FOR LINDBERGH. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THE FMS DID WHAT IT DID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.