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Attributes | |
ACN | 323430 |
Time | |
Date | 199512 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other ils localizer & glide slope : smo |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 323430 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Newark airport has just put a different departure procedure into effect when an aircraft should lose an engine. The fact that the procedure is different with and without an engine is not something that a pilot should deal with if he has just lost an engine. I realize that we brief what to do, but we are setting ourselves up for trouble when we do something different during an emergency. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter was confused as to whose procedure the engine out was associated with. After brief discussion he was counseled that the procedures are provided by his company and not the FAA and generally found on the 10-7 page of the approach plates. Reporter was embarrassed, but appreciative of the information.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ENG OUT ON TKOF PROC. NO ANOMALY.
Narrative: NEWARK ARPT HAS JUST PUT A DIFFERENT DEP PROC INTO EFFECT WHEN AN ACFT SHOULD LOSE AN ENG. THE FACT THAT THE PROC IS DIFFERENT WITH AND WITHOUT AN ENG IS NOT SOMETHING THAT A PLT SHOULD DEAL WITH IF HE HAS JUST LOST AN ENG. I REALIZE THAT WE BRIEF WHAT TO DO, BUT WE ARE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR TROUBLE WHEN WE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT DURING AN EMER. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR WAS CONFUSED AS TO WHOSE PROC THE ENG OUT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH. AFTER BRIEF DISCUSSION HE WAS COUNSELED THAT THE PROCS ARE PROVIDED BY HIS COMPANY AND NOT THE FAA AND GENERALLY FOUND ON THE 10-7 PAGE OF THE APCH PLATES. RPTR WAS EMBARRASSED, BUT APPRECIATIVE OF THE INFO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.