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Attributes | |
ACN | 326401 |
Time | |
Date | 199601 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : anc |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 4500 |
ASRS Report | 326401 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7065 flight time type : 2850 |
ASRS Report | 326400 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Due to a schedule pairing with a couple of 24 hour periods within it that contain nearly 8 hours of flying, and a delayed departure due to WX on the first day, it appears that I may have exceeded 8 hours flying in a 24 hour period. Because of the initial delay, subsequent ground times were shortened. Because of WX, all segment times from block- to-block were lengthened beyond scheduled times. The combination of these 2 compounded or heightened the possibility of an 8 in 24 problem. Because our company so closely tracks our time (on a very up-to-the-min basis) and regularly notifies us of impending problems of this type, this impending problem was not thought by us to be an eventual occurrence, or probability. It appears our company notified us 1 leg after the problem occurred, and removed us from the trip at that time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF MD80 EXCEEDS 8 IN 24 RULE.
Narrative: DUE TO A SCHEDULE PAIRING WITH A COUPLE OF 24 HR PERIODS WITHIN IT THAT CONTAIN NEARLY 8 HRS OF FLYING, AND A DELAYED DEP DUE TO WX ON THE FIRST DAY, IT APPEARS THAT I MAY HAVE EXCEEDED 8 HRS FLYING IN A 24 HR PERIOD. BECAUSE OF THE INITIAL DELAY, SUBSEQUENT GND TIMES WERE SHORTENED. BECAUSE OF WX, ALL SEGMENT TIMES FROM BLOCK- TO-BLOCK WERE LENGTHENED BEYOND SCHEDULED TIMES. THE COMBINATION OF THESE 2 COMPOUNDED OR HEIGHTENED THE POSSIBILITY OF AN 8 IN 24 PROB. BECAUSE OUR COMPANY SO CLOSELY TRACKS OUR TIME (ON A VERY UP-TO-THE-MIN BASIS) AND REGULARLY NOTIFIES US OF IMPENDING PROBS OF THIS TYPE, THIS IMPENDING PROB WAS NOT THOUGHT BY US TO BE AN EVENTUAL OCCURRENCE, OR PROBABILITY. IT APPEARS OUR COMPANY NOTIFIED US 1 LEG AFTER THE PROB OCCURRED, AND REMOVED US FROM THE TRIP AT THAT TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.