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Attributes | |
ACN | 328310 |
Time | |
Date | 199602 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hqm |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse tower : mci |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time total : 3400 |
ASRS Report | 328310 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were 18 NM east of hqm VOR on V27 at 4000 ft when center cleared us for the VOR runway 06 approach at hqm. I then mistakenly instructed my student to begin a slow descent. We had descended to 3000 ft and were over the VOR when I realized my mistake. We intercepted the outbound course, and as we were now on a published segment, continued our descent, completed the approach and landed without further incident. I believe the reasons I made this mistake were two: the first was that I was concerned that we would need to lose 2400 ft while descending outbound over the ocean. The second was that I had become accustomed to receiving a clearance to descend from 4000 ft to 3000 ft doing many of the practice approachs in the area and 'heard' the descent along with the approach clearance. On debriefing I discussed my mistake with my student and emphasized to both of us the necessity to obtain verification when unsure of a clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR WITH STUDENT PLT DSNDS BELOW ASSIGNED WHEN CLRED FOR THE APCH.
Narrative: WE WERE 18 NM E OF HQM VOR ON V27 AT 4000 FT WHEN CTR CLRED US FOR THE VOR RWY 06 APCH AT HQM. I THEN MISTAKENLY INSTRUCTED MY STUDENT TO BEGIN A SLOW DSCNT. WE HAD DSNDED TO 3000 FT AND WERE OVER THE VOR WHEN I REALIZED MY MISTAKE. WE INTERCEPTED THE OUTBOUND COURSE, AND AS WE WERE NOW ON A PUBLISHED SEGMENT, CONTINUED OUR DSCNT, COMPLETED THE APCH AND LANDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. I BELIEVE THE REASONS I MADE THIS MISTAKE WERE TWO: THE FIRST WAS THAT I WAS CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD NEED TO LOSE 2400 FT WHILE DSNDING OUTBOUND OVER THE OCEAN. THE SECOND WAS THAT I HAD BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO RECEIVING A CLRNC TO DSND FROM 4000 FT TO 3000 FT DOING MANY OF THE PRACTICE APCHS IN THE AREA AND 'HEARD' THE DSCNT ALONG WITH THE APCH CLRNC. ON DEBRIEFING I DISCUSSED MY MISTAKE WITH MY STUDENT AND EMPHASIZED TO BOTH OF US THE NECESSITY TO OBTAIN VERIFICATION WHEN UNSURE OF A CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.