Narrative:

A student and I had just landed and taxied clear of the runway and were holding short of the taxiway for a clearance to taxi and 2 northbound on the taxiway. We were about 15 ft from the runway. A warrior with a student pilot aboard was cleared for takeoff. During his takeoff roll, the airplane veered off the left side of the runway. I did not notice anything, nor had I heard the warrior cleared for takeoff. My student and I felt and heard a big bang and I looked to my right to see the warrior taxiing in the turn out area next to us. His left wingtip impacted my rudder. There was damage to the rudder and wingtip. The student pilot in the warrior was on his 3RD time around the pattern on a first solo. It is my belief that he lost control of the airplane (not enough right rudder). The instructor responsible for the warrior pilot should not have soloed him if he could not maintain directional control of the airplane. At el monte, the chances of a collision to occur in the turn out area are, in my opinion, always good. It is a continuous turn out area running the length of the runway, and nowhere is it clearly defined as to where an aircraft should be before the next plane is cleared for takeoff. Supplemental information from acn 329152: I visually inspected gauges, and upon completion noticed I had drifted left of centerline (still on runway) and applied right rudder for corrective action to regain center. At this moment I heard and felt a noise and a jerk of the plane to the left. I immediately reduced all power, aborted takeoff and cleared runway. Debris was about 10 ft outside runway lights. More vigilance on my part to the effects of p- factor and attention to ground position will eliminate future occurrences of this incident.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DURING A PA28 STUDENT PLT'S INITIAL SOLO FLT, THE ACFT DRIFTED L OF CTRLINE ON TKOF, AND THE R WING STRUCK THE TAIL OF A C152. THE C152 WAS HOLDING IN A TURN OFF AREA. RWY EXCURSION. ACFT DAMAGE.

Narrative: A STUDENT AND I HAD JUST LANDED AND TAXIED CLR OF THE RWY AND WERE HOLDING SHORT OF THE TXWY FOR A CLRNC TO TAXI AND 2 NBOUND ON THE TXWY. WE WERE ABOUT 15 FT FROM THE RWY. A WARRIOR WITH A STUDENT PLT ABOARD WAS CLRED FOR TKOF. DURING HIS TKOF ROLL, THE AIRPLANE VEERED OFF THE L SIDE OF THE RWY. I DID NOT NOTICE ANYTHING, NOR HAD I HEARD THE WARRIOR CLRED FOR TKOF. MY STUDENT AND I FELT AND HEARD A BIG BANG AND I LOOKED TO MY R TO SEE THE WARRIOR TAXIING IN THE TURN OUT AREA NEXT TO US. HIS L WINGTIP IMPACTED MY RUDDER. THERE WAS DAMAGE TO THE RUDDER AND WINGTIP. THE STUDENT PLT IN THE WARRIOR WAS ON HIS 3RD TIME AROUND THE PATTERN ON A FIRST SOLO. IT IS MY BELIEF THAT HE LOST CTL OF THE AIRPLANE (NOT ENOUGH R RUDDER). THE INSTRUCTOR RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WARRIOR PLT SHOULD NOT HAVE SOLOED HIM IF HE COULD NOT MAINTAIN DIRECTIONAL CTL OF THE AIRPLANE. AT EL MONTE, THE CHANCES OF A COLLISION TO OCCUR IN THE TURN OUT AREA ARE, IN MY OPINION, ALWAYS GOOD. IT IS A CONTINUOUS TURN OUT AREA RUNNING THE LENGTH OF THE RWY, AND NOWHERE IS IT CLRLY DEFINED AS TO WHERE AN ACFT SHOULD BE BEFORE THE NEXT PLANE IS CLRED FOR TKOF. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 329152: I VISUALLY INSPECTED GAUGES, AND UPON COMPLETION NOTICED I HAD DRIFTED L OF CTRLINE (STILL ON RWY) AND APPLIED R RUDDER FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION TO REGAIN CTR. AT THIS MOMENT I HEARD AND FELT A NOISE AND A JERK OF THE PLANE TO THE L. I IMMEDIATELY REDUCED ALL PWR, ABORTED TKOF AND CLRED RWY. DEBRIS WAS ABOUT 10 FT OUTSIDE RWY LIGHTS. MORE VIGILANCE ON MY PART TO THE EFFECTS OF P- FACTOR AND ATTN TO GND POS WILL ELIMINATE FUTURE OCCURRENCES OF THIS INCIDENT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.