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Reporter captain keeps flight time record in hours and tenths while his company air carrier records hours and mins. Reporter's method puts him over 30 in 7.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 329100 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199602 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ywg |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 329100 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
A question on 121.471 flight time limitations here. To keep crew members adequately rested, we are limited to 30 hours in 7 days. The company keeps track of time in mins and hours, I keep track of time in tenths of hours. Due to rounding errors, I found myself over 30 in 7 by my method of record keeping but the company had me under the maximum time allowed by using mins. By my method of record keeping I was in violation but according to the company, I wasn't. Sort of a gray area when considering crew rest issues. In either way of recording, the difference was sufficiently small that safety was not affected -- more of a technicality and something of a distraction while flying.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR CAPT KEEPS FLT TIME RECORD IN HRS AND TENTHS WHILE HIS COMPANY ACR RECORDS HRS AND MINS. RPTR'S METHOD PUTS HIM OVER 30 IN 7.
Narrative: A QUESTION ON 121.471 FLT TIME LIMITATIONS HERE. TO KEEP CREW MEMBERS ADEQUATELY RESTED, WE ARE LIMITED TO 30 HRS IN 7 DAYS. THE COMPANY KEEPS TRACK OF TIME IN MINS AND HRS, I KEEP TRACK OF TIME IN TENTHS OF HRS. DUE TO ROUNDING ERRORS, I FOUND MYSELF OVER 30 IN 7 BY MY METHOD OF RECORD KEEPING BUT THE COMPANY HAD ME UNDER THE MAX TIME ALLOWED BY USING MINS. BY MY METHOD OF RECORD KEEPING I WAS IN VIOLATION BUT ACCORDING TO THE COMPANY, I WASN'T. SORT OF A GRAY AREA WHEN CONSIDERING CREW REST ISSUES. IN EITHER WAY OF RECORDING, THE DIFFERENCE WAS SUFFICIENTLY SMALL THAT SAFETY WAS NOT AFFECTED -- MORE OF A TECHNICALITY AND SOMETHING OF A DISTR WHILE FLYING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.