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Miscom between flight crew and foreign controller. Flight crew requested early descent to avoid WX and remain VFR for approach. Controller cleared them to 2200 ft, but when flight crew were in descent, controller told them to return to the normal procedure altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 330306 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199603 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : baq |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : baq tower : bdl |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 330306 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Location, 10 NM north of baq. Inbound 9000 ft. Cumulo nimbus over the VOR. Cleared for the approach ILS runway 04. Requested a lower altitude to stay VMC, avoid the cumulo nimbus and get a visual. Cleared to 2200 ft. We read back for clarity two times that we were descending early to 2200 ft. Passing 3500 ft approach told us to return to 4000 ft in accordance with procedure. By now the WX was such that we could fly the complete procedure, so we did. Debriefed with approach control by telephone after landing. Language was a factor. We should have been much more emphatic that we were VMC, wanted to stay VMC, and were deviating from the charts due to WX.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MISCOM BTWN FLC AND FOREIGN CTLR. FLC REQUESTED EARLY DSCNT TO AVOID WX AND REMAIN VFR FOR APCH. CTLR CLRED THEM TO 2200 FT, BUT WHEN FLC WERE IN DSCNT, CTLR TOLD THEM TO RETURN TO THE NORMAL PROC ALT.
Narrative: LOCATION, 10 NM N OF BAQ. INBOUND 9000 FT. CUMULO NIMBUS OVER THE VOR. CLRED FOR THE APCH ILS RWY 04. REQUESTED A LOWER ALT TO STAY VMC, AVOID THE CUMULO NIMBUS AND GET A VISUAL. CLRED TO 2200 FT. WE READ BACK FOR CLARITY TWO TIMES THAT WE WERE DSNDING EARLY TO 2200 FT. PASSING 3500 FT APCH TOLD US TO RETURN TO 4000 FT IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROC. BY NOW THE WX WAS SUCH THAT WE COULD FLY THE COMPLETE PROC, SO WE DID. DEBRIEFED WITH APCH CTL BY TELEPHONE AFTER LNDG. LANGUAGE WAS A FACTOR. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE EMPHATIC THAT WE WERE VMC, WANTED TO STAY VMC, AND WERE DEVIATING FROM THE CHARTS DUE TO WX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.