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Attributes | |
ACN | 331380 |
Time | |
Date | 199603 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : srq |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tpa tower : sba |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 8700 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 331380 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Approach cleared us to 10000 ft. Passing 11000 ft got TCASII TA 'traffic,' followed by RA 'don't descend.' leveled at 10700 ft. P3 passed off left at 100 degrees about 3 mi. Called approach. They thought they had cleared us to 11000 ft. Later discussion suggested they had in fact cleared us to 10000 ft. The old 11000 ft versus 10000 ft problem!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC ASSIGNED THE FLC TO DSND TO 10000 FT MEANING TO ASSIGN THE FLT 11000 FT. THERE WAS AN ACFT AT 10000 FT THAT SET OFF THE TCASII RA. THE CREW RESPONDED AND MISSED THE ACFT 700 FT AND 3 MI.
Narrative: APCH CLRED US TO 10000 FT. PASSING 11000 FT GOT TCASII TA 'TFC,' FOLLOWED BY RA 'DON'T DSND.' LEVELED AT 10700 FT. P3 PASSED OFF L AT 100 DEGS ABOUT 3 MI. CALLED APCH. THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD CLRED US TO 11000 FT. LATER DISCUSSION SUGGESTED THEY HAD IN FACT CLRED US TO 10000 FT. THE OLD 11000 FT VERSUS 10000 FT PROB!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.