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Attributes | |
ACN | 331406 |
Time | |
Date | 199603 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mcw |
State Reference | IA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 13000 |
ASRS Report | 331406 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
No incident. This is to alert you to a possible problem due to 2 intxns on the msp meinz 7 arrival. The canen and conom intxns are both on the meinz 7. The controller who gave us the canen restr (10000 ft) was so busy with traffic, and spoke so rapidly, that canen was not distinguishable from conom! As a suggestion, the conom name should be changed to one not similar to canen. I did make a radio comment about the possible name confusion during a 'quiet time.' there was no comment from the controller. I realize the 'a' in canen could be pronounced long or short which then relies on the ending 'north' or 'M' for differentiation of intxns: too much risk for my liking, especially during msp 'bank time'/WX and ATC workload.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MLG SUGGESTS NAME CHANGE OF SIMILAR SOUNDING ARR FIX NAMES.
Narrative: NO INCIDENT. THIS IS TO ALERT YOU TO A POSSIBLE PROB DUE TO 2 INTXNS ON THE MSP MEINZ 7 ARR. THE CANEN AND CONOM INTXNS ARE BOTH ON THE MEINZ 7. THE CTLR WHO GAVE US THE CANEN RESTR (10000 FT) WAS SO BUSY WITH TFC, AND SPOKE SO RAPIDLY, THAT CANEN WAS NOT DISTINGUISHABLE FROM CONOM! AS A SUGGESTION, THE CONOM NAME SHOULD BE CHANGED TO ONE NOT SIMILAR TO CANEN. I DID MAKE A RADIO COMMENT ABOUT THE POSSIBLE NAME CONFUSION DURING A 'QUIET TIME.' THERE WAS NO COMMENT FROM THE CTLR. I REALIZE THE 'A' IN CANEN COULD BE PRONOUNCED LONG OR SHORT WHICH THEN RELIES ON THE ENDING 'N' OR 'M' FOR DIFFERENTIATION OF INTXNS: TOO MUCH RISK FOR MY LIKING, ESPECIALLY DURING MSP 'BANK TIME'/WX AND ATC WORKLOAD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.