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The lax ground control said, 'color aircraft #1 in the alley holding short of taxiway C, turn left on taxiway B.' while taxiing on taxiway B, ground control called 'air carrier taxiing out on taxiway B, who are you, you don't have taxi clearance.' the reporter replied, 'air carrier XXX you told us to turn left on taxiway B.'
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 332930 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 200 |
| ASRS Report | 332930 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
At approximately XA05Z we were #1 in alley between terminals. Called lax ground control 'air carrier flight XXX, taxi for takeoff, trm transition, ATIS information.' we received no immediate response from ground control but heard them talking to many other aircraft on the frequency. Approximately 40-50 seconds later, ground control issued this clearance: 'color aircraft, #1 in the alley holding short of taxiway C, turn left on taxiway B.' we replied 'roger, air carrier XXX.' while taxiing on taxiway B between C6 and C5, ground control called, 'air carrier taxiing out on taxiway B, who are you, you don't have a taxi clearance.' I replied, 'air carrier XXX, you told us to turn left on taxiway B.' no other contact was had with ground control and there was no apparent conflict with any other ground traffic on our taxi out.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE LAX GND CTL SAID, 'COLOR ACFT #1 IN THE ALLEY HOLDING SHORT OF TXWY C, TURN L ON TXWY B.' WHILE TAXIING ON TXWY B, GND CTL CALLED 'ACR TAXIING OUT ON TXWY B, WHO ARE YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TAXI CLRNC.' THE RPTR REPLIED, 'ACR XXX YOU TOLD US TO TURN L ON TXWY B.'
Narrative: AT APPROX XA05Z WE WERE #1 IN ALLEY BTWN TERMINALS. CALLED LAX GND CTL 'ACR FLT XXX, TAXI FOR TKOF, TRM TRANSITION, ATIS INFO.' WE RECEIVED NO IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM GND CTL BUT HEARD THEM TALKING TO MANY OTHER ACFT ON THE FREQ. APPROX 40-50 SECONDS LATER, GND CTL ISSUED THIS CLRNC: 'COLOR ACFT, #1 IN THE ALLEY HOLDING SHORT OF TXWY C, TURN L ON TXWY B.' WE REPLIED 'ROGER, ACR XXX.' WHILE TAXIING ON TXWY B BTWN C6 AND C5, GND CTL CALLED, 'ACR TAXIING OUT ON TXWY B, WHO ARE YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE A TAXI CLRNC.' I REPLIED, 'ACR XXX, YOU TOLD US TO TURN L ON TXWY B.' NO OTHER CONTACT WAS HAD WITH GND CTL AND THERE WAS NO APPARENT CONFLICT WITH ANY OTHER GND TFC ON OUR TAXI OUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.