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At approximately 6000 ft on climb from wjf, the reporter had to push forward on the yoke to avoid hitting a C172RG. Edw TRACON was talking to the reporter and the C172 but did not notify either pilot of their proximity to each other. The C172 aircraft transponder was inoperative.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 332985 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : wjf |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : edw |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Hercules (C-130) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : military |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 332985 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : military pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
After flying transition at fox field, we were in a VFR climb (on a heading of approximately 180 degrees) to intercept V386. We had received an IFR clearance and were on a VFR climb out. At approximately 6000 ft I observed a yellow and white cessna rg (172?) in my 12 O'clock position. I immediately pushed forward on the yoke to avoid a midair. We came within approximately 300 ft of the other aircraft. Joshua did not call out the traffic. After the incident I informed joshua and was told that the cessna had an inoperative transponder. Apparently joshua was talking to the other aircraft and was aware of their general location and altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AT APPROX 6000 FT ON CLB FROM WJF, THE RPTR HAD TO PUSH FORWARD ON THE YOKE TO AVOID HITTING A C172RG. EDW TRACON WAS TALKING TO THE RPTR AND THE C172 BUT DID NOT NOTIFY EITHER PLT OF THEIR PROX TO EACH OTHER. THE C172 ACFT XPONDER WAS INOP.
Narrative: AFTER FLYING TRANSITION AT FOX FIELD, WE WERE IN A VFR CLB (ON A HDG OF APPROX 180 DEGS) TO INTERCEPT V386. WE HAD RECEIVED AN IFR CLRNC AND WERE ON A VFR CLBOUT. AT APPROX 6000 FT I OBSERVED A YELLOW AND WHITE CESSNA RG (172?) IN MY 12 O'CLOCK POS. I IMMEDIATELY PUSHED FORWARD ON THE YOKE TO AVOID A MIDAIR. WE CAME WITHIN APPROX 300 FT OF THE OTHER ACFT. JOSHUA DID NOT CALL OUT THE TFC. AFTER THE INCIDENT I INFORMED JOSHUA AND WAS TOLD THAT THE CESSNA HAD AN INOP XPONDER. APPARENTLY JOSHUA WAS TALKING TO THE OTHER ACFT AND WAS AWARE OF THEIR GENERAL LOCATION AND ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.