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Flight crew didn't associate ATIS instructions to contact ground controller prior to pushback as being related to their gate. Partly because their company 10-8 page didn't specify that. Ground metering notified flight crew of the call requirement.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 333780 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 333780 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 333781 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Location: gate at lax. Crew contacted ramp for pushback at XA21Z from lax gate a after pushback. Contacted ground metering on 120.35 and was told we were to have contacted ground metering prior to pushback. The crew did not know that the ATIS requirement to call ground metering prior to push onto taxiway C10 applied to the ramp area behind gate a. Page 10-8 shows area controled by air carrier ramp.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DIDN'T ASSOCIATE ATIS INSTRUCTIONS TO CONTACT GND CTLR PRIOR TO PUSHBACK AS BEING RELATED TO THEIR GATE. PARTLY BECAUSE THEIR COMPANY 10-8 PAGE DIDN'T SPECIFY THAT. GND METERING NOTIFIED FLC OF THE CALL REQUIREMENT.
Narrative: LOCATION: GATE AT LAX. CREW CONTACTED RAMP FOR PUSHBACK AT XA21Z FROM LAX GATE A AFTER PUSHBACK. CONTACTED GND METERING ON 120.35 AND WAS TOLD WE WERE TO HAVE CONTACTED GND METERING PRIOR TO PUSHBACK. THE CREW DID NOT KNOW THAT THE ATIS REQUIREMENT TO CALL GND METERING PRIOR TO PUSH ONTO TXWY C10 APPLIED TO THE RAMP AREA BEHIND GATE A. PAGE 10-8 SHOWS AREA CTLED BY ACR RAMP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.