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Attributes | |
ACN | 334203 |
Time | |
Date | 199604 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sbmu |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 39000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : sbmu |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 324203 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : declared emergency |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
At FL390 airspeed 250 KTS/mach .805 entered top of cell not showing on radar. After engine anti-ice positioned to on, left engine overtemped to 742 degree C, compressor stall experienced. Throttle moved to idle no help. Shut down left engine per procedures, descended to FL290. After successful relight, climbed back to FL390. Air carrier a relayed information to dispatch. We were no communication on VHF/HF all frequencys except with air carrier a. Both first officer worked the problem and performed exemplary! Engine operated normal after relight, continued to mia. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: aircraft indented as B767-200. Reporter states that the area they were in, upper level 304 is one in which communication is always difficult because satcom is the only type which provides coverage. And, they had only HF and VHF, but were able to declare an emergency, descend and climb back to altitude by relaying the information through another aircraft in their vicinity. Reporter captain believes what caused the compressor stall was ice buildup prior to turning on the engine anti-ice. The reason the anti-ice was not turned on earlier was because the outside temperature was minus 28 degrees. However, when they flew into a cell buildup and noticed moisture, ice hitting windscreen, they turned on the anti-ice. Reporter thinks by the time they turned it on, an appreciable buildup of ice had accumulated on the fan section. After they shut down the engine and descended, they restarted it and continued on to destination. Post flight inspection found no damage, but the engine had a history of previous overtemps.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMPRESSOR STALL AFTER ENG ANTI-ICE PLACED ON. ENG SHUTDOWN. FLC DSNDED TO FL290 WHILE RELAYING THEIR ACTIONS THROUGH ANOTHER ACR BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT IN COM WITH THE ATC SECTOR. ENG WAS RESTARTED AND ACFT RETURNED TO ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: AT FL390 AIRSPD 250 KTS/MACH .805 ENTERED TOP OF CELL NOT SHOWING ON RADAR. AFTER ENG ANTI-ICE POSITIONED TO ON, L ENG OVERTEMPED TO 742 DEG C, COMPRESSOR STALL EXPERIENCED. THROTTLE MOVED TO IDLE NO HELP. SHUT DOWN L ENG PER PROCS, DSNDED TO FL290. AFTER SUCCESSFUL RELIGHT, CLBED BACK TO FL390. ACR A RELAYED INFO TO DISPATCH. WE WERE NO COM ON VHF/HF ALL FREQS EXCEPT WITH ACR A. BOTH FO WORKED THE PROB AND PERFORMED EXEMPLARY! ENG OPERATED NORMAL AFTER RELIGHT, CONTINUED TO MIA. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: ACFT INDENTED AS B767-200. RPTR STATES THAT THE AREA THEY WERE IN, UPPER LEVEL 304 IS ONE IN WHICH COM IS ALWAYS DIFFICULT BECAUSE SATCOM IS THE ONLY TYPE WHICH PROVIDES COVERAGE. AND, THEY HAD ONLY HF AND VHF, BUT WERE ABLE TO DECLARE AN EMER, DSND AND CLB BACK TO ALT BY RELAYING THE INFO THROUGH ANOTHER ACFT IN THEIR VICINITY. RPTR CAPT BELIEVES WHAT CAUSED THE COMPRESSOR STALL WAS ICE BUILDUP PRIOR TO TURNING ON THE ENG ANTI-ICE. THE REASON THE ANTI-ICE WAS NOT TURNED ON EARLIER WAS BECAUSE THE OUTSIDE TEMP WAS MINUS 28 DEGS. HOWEVER, WHEN THEY FLEW INTO A CELL BUILDUP AND NOTICED MOISTURE, ICE HITTING WINDSCREEN, THEY TURNED ON THE ANTI-ICE. RPTR THINKS BY THE TIME THEY TURNED IT ON, AN APPRECIABLE BUILDUP OF ICE HAD ACCUMULATED ON THE FAN SECTION. AFTER THEY SHUT DOWN THE ENG AND DSNDED, THEY RESTARTED IT AND CONTINUED ON TO DEST. POST FLT INSPECTION FOUND NO DAMAGE, BUT THE ENG HAD A HISTORY OF PREVIOUS OVERTEMPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.