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Attributes | |
ACN | 334560 |
Time | |
Date | 199604 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18300 msl bound upper : 19000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zdv |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 334560 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 220 |
ASRS Report | 334553 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were filed for the dandd 1 arrival into denver and at approximately 200 mi out we were told to fly a heading of 220 degrees for the sayge 1 arrival. Again, at approximately 100 mi out, we were given a heading of 230 degrees for dunny intersection, and at 75 mi out we realized that on that heading we would never get to dunny. We questioned ATC and were then told to intercept the 122 degree radial off dvv and slow to 250 KIAS, on the dandd 1 arrival again. While I was getting the dandd 1 arrival out (again), I sensed the power coming back and assumed we were slowing to the 250 KIAS assigned, but when I looked up, I noticed that we had descended to FL185 and were still descending. Our assigned altitude was FL190. I told the captain our altitude should be FL190 and to climb back, but he was unsure of the clearance and continued the descent until FL183 when, at that time, he climbed back to FL190. I believe the cause of the problem was the captain's lack of understanding of the clearance and trying to do too many things all at once. Supplemental information from acn 334553: given a heading to intercept a different STAR than one in the clearance. About 10 mins later, I realized the heading would not work. I asked the copilot to check with ATC about this heading, but she convinced me it was normal. With all the confusion at this time I unarmed (without my knowledge) the altitude arm window and descended to FL183 before realizing what my altitude was. I climbed back to FL190. Center did not comment. The lesson I learned was to insist on checking with the controling agency when I have any doubts in the future. Also, I need to slow down on a new aircraft type (3 months on type) so as not to err in flight guidance setups.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A WDB FLC OVERSHOT THE ASSIGNED ALT DURING THE DSCNT BY 700 FT BEFORE CORRECTING. THE CAPT (PF) HAD INADVERTENTLY DISARMED THE ALT CAPTURE DURING SOME CONFUSION OVER THE ASSIGNED STAR AND VECTOR INTERFACE THAT PRECEDED THE ALTDEV.
Narrative: WE WERE FILED FOR THE DANDD 1 ARR INTO DENVER AND AT APPROX 200 MI OUT WE WERE TOLD TO FLY A HDG OF 220 DEGS FOR THE SAYGE 1 ARR. AGAIN, AT APPROX 100 MI OUT, WE WERE GIVEN A HDG OF 230 DEGS FOR DUNNY INTXN, AND AT 75 MI OUT WE REALIZED THAT ON THAT HDG WE WOULD NEVER GET TO DUNNY. WE QUESTIONED ATC AND WERE THEN TOLD TO INTERCEPT THE 122 DEG RADIAL OFF DVV AND SLOW TO 250 KIAS, ON THE DANDD 1 ARR AGAIN. WHILE I WAS GETTING THE DANDD 1 ARR OUT (AGAIN), I SENSED THE PWR COMING BACK AND ASSUMED WE WERE SLOWING TO THE 250 KIAS ASSIGNED, BUT WHEN I LOOKED UP, I NOTICED THAT WE HAD DSNDED TO FL185 AND WERE STILL DSNDING. OUR ASSIGNED ALT WAS FL190. I TOLD THE CAPT OUR ALT SHOULD BE FL190 AND TO CLB BACK, BUT HE WAS UNSURE OF THE CLRNC AND CONTINUED THE DSCNT UNTIL FL183 WHEN, AT THAT TIME, HE CLBED BACK TO FL190. I BELIEVE THE CAUSE OF THE PROB WAS THE CAPT'S LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE CLRNC AND TRYING TO DO TOO MANY THINGS ALL AT ONCE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 334553: GIVEN A HDG TO INTERCEPT A DIFFERENT STAR THAN ONE IN THE CLRNC. ABOUT 10 MINS LATER, I REALIZED THE HDG WOULD NOT WORK. I ASKED THE COPLT TO CHK WITH ATC ABOUT THIS HDG, BUT SHE CONVINCED ME IT WAS NORMAL. WITH ALL THE CONFUSION AT THIS TIME I UNARMED (WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE) THE ALT ARM WINDOW AND DSNDED TO FL183 BEFORE REALIZING WHAT MY ALT WAS. I CLBED BACK TO FL190. CTR DID NOT COMMENT. THE LESSON I LEARNED WAS TO INSIST ON CHKING WITH THE CTLING AGENCY WHEN I HAVE ANY DOUBTS IN THE FUTURE. ALSO, I NEED TO SLOW DOWN ON A NEW ACFT TYPE (3 MONTHS ON TYPE) SO AS NOT TO ERR IN FLT GUIDANCE SETUPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.