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The ATIS advertised ILS to runway 36 dca with GS OTS. The approach controller told the crew to plan for an lda DME to runway 18 which is not in the database. The approach had to be built adapted from the lda rosslyn runway 18 approach. As the approach controller turned the flight toward the final approach course he cleared the crew for a VOR runway approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 335238 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199605 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dca |
| State Reference | DC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2100 msl bound upper : 2100 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 2300 |
| ASRS Report | 335238 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Approaching dca the ATIS advertised ILS runway 36 (GS inoperative). Abeam the airport on downwind we were advised that we would be doing the lda (DME) runway 18. As PNF I programmed the FMC for the lda (DME) runway 18. The approach is not in the database so it required an adaptation of the lda rosslyn runway 18. During this time the approach controller vectored us toward the final approach to runway 18. As we were turned toward the final approach course, we were cleared for the VOR runway 18. Another frantic reprogramming ensued while we were vectored inside the bonds intersection at 3000 ft. We were cleared to descend a mi inside bonds and crossed the 7 mi fix at 2400 ft MSL, which is 300 ft high. We did stabilize just below 1000 ft AGL and at that time descended below the clouds to visual conditions. While the controller's actions 'moved the metal' it can only be considered poor technique. The controller was rushed and the ensuing reprogrammings made this a single pilot operation with accompanying typist. Handily we arrived in VMC just as I was getting to feel that a missed approach would be in order for a stable instrument approach. In the future less 'rush' and more stability will be my mode of operation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE ATIS ADVERTISED ILS TO RWY 36 DCA WITH GS OTS. THE APCH CTLR TOLD THE CREW TO PLAN FOR AN LDA DME TO RWY 18 WHICH IS NOT IN THE DATABASE. THE APCH HAD TO BE BUILT ADAPTED FROM THE LDA ROSSLYN RWY 18 APCH. AS THE APCH CTLR TURNED THE FLT TOWARD THE FINAL APCH COURSE HE CLRED THE CREW FOR A VOR RWY APCH.
Narrative: APCHING DCA THE ATIS ADVERTISED ILS RWY 36 (GS INOP). ABEAM THE ARPT ON DOWNWIND WE WERE ADVISED THAT WE WOULD BE DOING THE LDA (DME) RWY 18. AS PNF I PROGRAMMED THE FMC FOR THE LDA (DME) RWY 18. THE APCH IS NOT IN THE DATABASE SO IT REQUIRED AN ADAPTATION OF THE LDA ROSSLYN RWY 18. DURING THIS TIME THE APCH CTLR VECTORED US TOWARD THE FINAL APCH TO RWY 18. AS WE WERE TURNED TOWARD THE FINAL APCH COURSE, WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VOR RWY 18. ANOTHER FRANTIC REPROGRAMMING ENSUED WHILE WE WERE VECTORED INSIDE THE BONDS INTXN AT 3000 FT. WE WERE CLRED TO DSND A MI INSIDE BONDS AND CROSSED THE 7 MI FIX AT 2400 FT MSL, WHICH IS 300 FT HIGH. WE DID STABILIZE JUST BELOW 1000 FT AGL AND AT THAT TIME DSNDED BELOW THE CLOUDS TO VISUAL CONDITIONS. WHILE THE CTLR'S ACTIONS 'MOVED THE METAL' IT CAN ONLY BE CONSIDERED POOR TECHNIQUE. THE CTLR WAS RUSHED AND THE ENSUING REPROGRAMMINGS MADE THIS A SINGLE PLT OP WITH ACCOMPANYING TYPIST. HANDILY WE ARRIVED IN VMC JUST AS I WAS GETTING TO FEEL THAT A MISSED APCH WOULD BE IN ORDER FOR A STABLE INST APCH. IN THE FUTURE LESS 'RUSH' AND MORE STABILITY WILL BE MY MODE OF OP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.