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Attributes | |
ACN | 337490 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : syd |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : syd |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-8 70 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Jet/Long Ranger |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 201 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 698 |
ASRS Report | 337490 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 214 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1009 |
ASRS Report | 337505 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our flight was cleared by ATC to climb and maintain 5000 ft. Takeoff took place on runway 34L, and while tracking the localizer after takeoff, we were instructed by ATC to turn right heading 090 degrees and intercept the 059 degree radial from sydney VOR. I was flying the aircraft, and told the captain to please tune and identify sydney VOR, while I turned to heading 090 degrees. When leveling wings, ATC called and asked our altitude, at which time we were climbing at 5300 ft, we immediately stopped climbing, but with the high rate of climb, we reached 5800 ft. We started to descend to 5000 ft when ATC asked if we had traffic in sight. We said yes, then he told us to maintain 5500 ft. 30 seconds later we were cleared to a higher level. Traffic, which was a helicopter, was about 2 mi from us. We had it in sight at all times. WX conditions were ceiling and visibility ok. Supplemental information from acn 337505: just prior to altitude excursion, the first officer heard an aural warning, but believed it to be the trim motor horn, as he (the first officer) was trimming the aircraft at that moment. The so did not catch the aural warning even though he was facing the instrument panel at the time the alerter sounded. I was reading back directions and tuning VOR to join 059 degree radial. Using standard atmospheric temperature takeoff procedures, our aircraft performance was very good due to our low weight and cool temperature. When instructions were given, our climb was approximately 2500-3000 FPM. Due to rate of climb and instructions all happening within a matter of seconds, we missed our 1000 ft call prior to leveloff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC8 FLC OVERSHOT THEIR ASSIGNED DEP ALT WHILE TURNING TO INTERCEPT A RADIAL. THE FLC CITED A FAST RATE OF CLB (GOOD ACFT PERFORMANCE) AND NUMEROUS ATC INSTRUCTIONS, AS CONTRIBUTING FACTORS.
Narrative: OUR FLT WAS CLRED BY ATC TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 5000 FT. TKOF TOOK PLACE ON RWY 34L, AND WHILE TRACKING THE LOC AFTER TKOF, WE WERE INSTRUCTED BY ATC TO TURN R HDG 090 DEGS AND INTERCEPT THE 059 DEG RADIAL FROM SYDNEY VOR. I WAS FLYING THE ACFT, AND TOLD THE CAPT TO PLEASE TUNE AND IDENT SYDNEY VOR, WHILE I TURNED TO HDG 090 DEGS. WHEN LEVELING WINGS, ATC CALLED AND ASKED OUR ALT, AT WHICH TIME WE WERE CLBING AT 5300 FT, WE IMMEDIATELY STOPPED CLBING, BUT WITH THE HIGH RATE OF CLB, WE REACHED 5800 FT. WE STARTED TO DSND TO 5000 FT WHEN ATC ASKED IF WE HAD TFC IN SIGHT. WE SAID YES, THEN HE TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 5500 FT. 30 SECONDS LATER WE WERE CLRED TO A HIGHER LEVEL. TFC, WHICH WAS A HELI, WAS ABOUT 2 MI FROM US. WE HAD IT IN SIGHT AT ALL TIMES. WX CONDITIONS WERE CEILING AND VISIBILITY OK. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 337505: JUST PRIOR TO ALT EXCURSION, THE FO HEARD AN AURAL WARNING, BUT BELIEVED IT TO BE THE TRIM MOTOR HORN, AS HE (THE FO) WAS TRIMMING THE ACFT AT THAT MOMENT. THE SO DID NOT CATCH THE AURAL WARNING EVEN THOUGH HE WAS FACING THE INST PANEL AT THE TIME THE ALERTER SOUNDED. I WAS READING BACK DIRECTIONS AND TUNING VOR TO JOIN 059 DEG RADIAL. USING STANDARD ATMOSPHERIC TEMP TKOF PROCS, OUR ACFT PERFORMANCE WAS VERY GOOD DUE TO OUR LOW WT AND COOL TEMP. WHEN INSTRUCTIONS WERE GIVEN, OUR CLB WAS APPROX 2500-3000 FPM. DUE TO RATE OF CLB AND INSTRUCTIONS ALL HAPPENING WITHIN A MATTER OF SECONDS, WE MISSED OUR 1000 FT CALL PRIOR TO LEVELOFF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.