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A jetstream 31 first officer notes an airbus nearly flying formation with their flight, 900 ft above and to the right. Concerned about overtaking traffic. Controller issues turn into traffic, away from traffic pattern.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 337718 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199605 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mem |
| State Reference | TN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mem |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Jetstream 31 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Airbus Industrie Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 2400 flight time type : 73 |
| ASRS Report | 337718 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 950 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were on the arrival for runway 36L on left downwind when we got a TA on TCASII. It said it was 900 ft above and to the right rear. I looked out and saw an airbus. As the airbus passed our right wing I asked approach if the airbus was going to be a factor and he said 'he will if you don't turn right to 220 degrees,' which I didn't understand because he didn't let us know the traffic was there and made it sound like it was our fault and that heading turned us right toward the traffic. So we turned right and passed under the airbus. No other action was necessary.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A JETSTREAM 31 FO NOTES AN AIRBUS NEARLY FLYING FORMATION WITH THEIR FLT, 900 FT ABOVE AND TO THE R. CONCERNED ABOUT OVERTAKING TFC. CTLR ISSUES TURN INTO TFC, AWAY FROM TFC PATTERN.
Narrative: WE WERE ON THE ARR FOR RWY 36L ON L DOWNWIND WHEN WE GOT A TA ON TCASII. IT SAID IT WAS 900 FT ABOVE AND TO THE R REAR. I LOOKED OUT AND SAW AN AIRBUS. AS THE AIRBUS PASSED OUR R WING I ASKED APCH IF THE AIRBUS WAS GOING TO BE A FACTOR AND HE SAID 'HE WILL IF YOU DON'T TURN R TO 220 DEGS,' WHICH I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LET US KNOW THE TFC WAS THERE AND MADE IT SOUND LIKE IT WAS OUR FAULT AND THAT HDG TURNED US RIGHT TOWARD THE TFC. SO WE TURNED R AND PASSED UNDER THE AIRBUS. NO OTHER ACTION WAS NECESSARY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.