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Attributes | |
ACN | 338576 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : rfd |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 22000 msl bound upper : 22000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau tower : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 24 flight time total : 2782 flight time type : 230 |
ASRS Report | 338576 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 106 flight time total : 10121 flight time type : 105 |
ASRS Report | 338568 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Upon starting our descent from FL220 heading towards rockford, il, we lost all of our generators. The so moved the essential power selector to the standby mode. Standby mode is when the aircraft is on battery power (and usually lasts approximately 30 mins). We declared an emergency and headed straight to ord with vectors from ZAU. In the descent, the generators were attempted to be put back on line by the so. Upon reaching our leveloff altitude of 6000 ft, xfer of aircraft control occurred from the first officer to the captain. Just as we leveled off, the so asked the captain and first officer to confirm that all 3 engines were not operating. As we performed the memory items for 'all engine failure,' we were cleared out of our altitude. Roughly 30-40 seconds later, all 3 engines started again. A turn to final was made and the confign sequence began. Flaps first then the gear (checklist called for flaps 15 degrees). Then it was noticed the aircraft was not responding to power inputs. We noticed this at approximately 2000- 2500 ft. We doublechked the 'all engine failure' memory items and noticed all switches were where they were the first time we accomplished this. Then roughly 1-2 mi on final (when we were well below glide path), the engines spooled up and the electrical system was restored. An uneventful landing was accomplished at that time. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter first officer says that at first the flight crew thought they had an electrical failure because the essential power light came on momentarily, but went out after automatic xfer to a secondary power source. Reporter believes that it was #1 that first went off. They were descending to land at rockford, but thinking they had an electrical failure, declared an emergency and requested diversion to ord. The captain called for the loss of generators checklist and after that was completed the so noticed that the engines appeared to be out and asked the pilots. It was then they realized that they had all 3 engines flamed out. They then went through the emergency engine failed checklist and within a min regained all 3 engines. When on final approach the flight crew noticed that the engines were not responding to throttle movement, but again within 2 mi the engines spooled up again, the electrical system restored and an uneventful landing followed. The aircraft was taxied in with all system normal. The flight crew has not received feedback on the incident, but no doubt will because it is being investigated by the NTSB. Reporter says that they had nothing to hide when the NTSB asked if they wanted an attorney present when they were providing testimony in the hearings. Reporter was asked if, because the so was very new on the aircraft, it was possible that the fuel panel was set incorrectly, and he said he wouldn't want to speculate, but that the #2 tank boost pumps were off and #1 and #3 were on and it was unlikely that the fuel valves had been turned off.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING DSCNT, THIS B727 HAD ALL ENGS FLAME OUT. THE FLC INITIALLY THOUGHT IT WAS AN ELECTRICAL EMER, BUT EVENTUALLY REALIZED THE ENGS WERE NOT RUNNING. CHKLIST GOT THE ENGS BACK ONLINE, BUT WERE STILL NOT RESPONDING PROPERLY TO THROTTLE MOVEMENT. LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL AND EVERYTHING NORMAL AFTER LNDG. INCIDENT UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE NTSB.
Narrative: UPON STARTING OUR DSCNT FROM FL220 HEADING TOWARDS ROCKFORD, IL, WE LOST ALL OF OUR GENERATORS. THE SO MOVED THE ESSENTIAL PWR SELECTOR TO THE STANDBY MODE. STANDBY MODE IS WHEN THE ACFT IS ON BATTERY PWR (AND USUALLY LASTS APPROX 30 MINS). WE DECLARED AN EMER AND HEADED STRAIGHT TO ORD WITH VECTORS FROM ZAU. IN THE DSCNT, THE GENERATORS WERE ATTEMPTED TO BE PUT BACK ON LINE BY THE SO. UPON REACHING OUR LEVELOFF ALT OF 6000 FT, XFER OF ACFT CTL OCCURRED FROM THE FO TO THE CAPT. JUST AS WE LEVELED OFF, THE SO ASKED THE CAPT AND FO TO CONFIRM THAT ALL 3 ENGS WERE NOT OPERATING. AS WE PERFORMED THE MEMORY ITEMS FOR 'ALL ENG FAILURE,' WE WERE CLRED OUT OF OUR ALT. ROUGHLY 30-40 SECONDS LATER, ALL 3 ENGS STARTED AGAIN. A TURN TO FINAL WAS MADE AND THE CONFIGN SEQUENCE BEGAN. FLAPS FIRST THEN THE GEAR (CHKLIST CALLED FOR FLAPS 15 DEGS). THEN IT WAS NOTICED THE ACFT WAS NOT RESPONDING TO PWR INPUTS. WE NOTICED THIS AT APPROX 2000- 2500 FT. WE DOUBLECHKED THE 'ALL ENG FAILURE' MEMORY ITEMS AND NOTICED ALL SWITCHES WERE WHERE THEY WERE THE FIRST TIME WE ACCOMPLISHED THIS. THEN ROUGHLY 1-2 MI ON FINAL (WHEN WE WERE WELL BELOW GLIDE PATH), THE ENGS SPOOLED UP AND THE ELECTRICAL SYS WAS RESTORED. AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG WAS ACCOMPLISHED AT THAT TIME. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR FO SAYS THAT AT FIRST THE FLC THOUGHT THEY HAD AN ELECTRICAL FAILURE BECAUSE THE ESSENTIAL PWR LIGHT CAME ON MOMENTARILY, BUT WENT OUT AFTER AUTOMATIC XFER TO A SECONDARY PWR SOURCE. RPTR BELIEVES THAT IT WAS #1 THAT FIRST WENT OFF. THEY WERE DSNDING TO LAND AT ROCKFORD, BUT THINKING THEY HAD AN ELECTRICAL FAILURE, DECLARED AN EMER AND REQUESTED DIVERSION TO ORD. THE CAPT CALLED FOR THE LOSS OF GENERATORS CHKLIST AND AFTER THAT WAS COMPLETED THE SO NOTICED THAT THE ENGS APPEARED TO BE OUT AND ASKED THE PLTS. IT WAS THEN THEY REALIZED THAT THEY HAD ALL 3 ENGS FLAMED OUT. THEY THEN WENT THROUGH THE EMER ENG FAILED CHKLIST AND WITHIN A MIN REGAINED ALL 3 ENGS. WHEN ON FINAL APCH THE FLC NOTICED THAT THE ENGS WERE NOT RESPONDING TO THROTTLE MOVEMENT, BUT AGAIN WITHIN 2 MI THE ENGS SPOOLED UP AGAIN, THE ELECTRICAL SYS RESTORED AND AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG FOLLOWED. THE ACFT WAS TAXIED IN WITH ALL SYS NORMAL. THE FLC HAS NOT RECEIVED FEEDBACK ON THE INCIDENT, BUT NO DOUBT WILL BECAUSE IT IS BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE NTSB. RPTR SAYS THAT THEY HAD NOTHING TO HIDE WHEN THE NTSB ASKED IF THEY WANTED AN ATTORNEY PRESENT WHEN THEY WERE PROVIDING TESTIMONY IN THE HEARINGS. RPTR WAS ASKED IF, BECAUSE THE SO WAS VERY NEW ON THE ACFT, IT WAS POSSIBLE THAT THE FUEL PANEL WAS SET INCORRECTLY, AND HE SAID HE WOULDN'T WANT TO SPECULATE, BUT THAT THE #2 TANK BOOST PUMPS WERE OFF AND #1 AND #3 WERE ON AND IT WAS UNLIKELY THAT THE FUEL VALVES HAD BEEN TURNED OFF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.