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TCASII. Departure controller had told flight crew about the traffic and flight crew confirmed it with TCASII as well as visually. When flight crew continued climbing in proximity of traffic, the controller turned them away at the same time they had TCASII RA. Reporter says that ATC waited too long to turn them. F100.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 339810 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199606 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : hpn |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : n90 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 339810 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
On departure from hpn runway 34 we had been cleared to climb to 11000 ft and had been alerted by departure for traffic at 9000 ft. TCASII confirmed same and climb was continued, departure instructed us to turn away from traffic and we complied. Traffic was in sight during entire event. TCASII alerted us of traffic and we complied with the RA from TCASII. Traffic continued on its course. In my opinion departure waited too long to direct us from the traffic (that I assumed was VFR).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TCASII. DEP CTLR HAD TOLD FLC ABOUT THE TFC AND FLC CONFIRMED IT WITH TCASII AS WELL AS VISUALLY. WHEN FLC CONTINUED CLBING IN PROX OF TFC, THE CTLR TURNED THEM AWAY AT THE SAME TIME THEY HAD TCASII RA. RPTR SAYS THAT ATC WAITED TOO LONG TO TURN THEM. F100.
Narrative: ON DEP FROM HPN RWY 34 WE HAD BEEN CLRED TO CLB TO 11000 FT AND HAD BEEN ALERTED BY DEP FOR TFC AT 9000 FT. TCASII CONFIRMED SAME AND CLB WAS CONTINUED, DEP INSTRUCTED US TO TURN AWAY FROM TFC AND WE COMPLIED. TFC WAS IN SIGHT DURING ENTIRE EVENT. TCASII ALERTED US OF TFC AND WE COMPLIED WITH THE RA FROM TCASII. TFC CONTINUED ON ITS COURSE. IN MY OPINION DEP WAITED TOO LONG TO DIRECT US FROM THE TFC (THAT I ASSUMED WAS VFR).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.