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Attributes | |
ACN | 340923 |
Time | |
Date | 199607 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cle |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 340923 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 340926 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
ATIS information at XA54 (in part -- departure runway 23R landing runway 23L). Completed all duties for engine start and push back. Called for taxi instructions. Ground instructed #1 for takeoff runway 23R taxi up to hold short runway 23L on runway 28. Completed all takeoff duties and briefed for runway 23R departure. Changed to tower frequency. Tower instructed position and hold runway 23. Shortly after we taxied into position and holding tower advised us we were on the incorrect runway which was runway 23R. We asked if there was a conflict and advised 'no conflict cleared for takeoff.' once airborne we asked again if any paperwork needed to be filed. Advised by tower again 'no have a nice day.' flight proceeded uneventfully to bwi, where after relief from duty and in contact with my home, my spouse informed me cle tower had been in contact with scheduling and a call was needed to cle tower. Contacted my chief pilot's office then placed call to cle tower, where I was advised there was a problem and I should have been told 'the matter will be investigated.' I contacted chief pilot's office again and my representatives. Both first officer and I were sure of our instructions and had been flying a 3 day trip sequence, where at no time if either was not in agreement to what our instructions were, they were clarified until we were both in agreement. Evening before was a reduced rest period. We felt confident we complied with all instructions and clrncs, however, we are concerned due to minimum rest period with short time in hotel. This may have contributed to this alledged incident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated he is the first pilot in a long time at this airline who has been upgraded to captain in the B737-200 and had never been a captain before. With that in mind, he is very careful to write ATIS and clrncs down and brief as per airline recommended procedures. He stated his first officer and he work well together, but the first officer has a strong foreign accent which makes him difficult to understand sometimes. For example, the copilot is accused by the ATC supervisor of acknowledging clearance into position on runway 23L, but neither the first officer nor the captain recall him saying that and the copilot did not mean to say that. The runway change would have required a new briefing if he had understood the runway was changed from the runway 23R to runway 23L by company procedure. Runway lengths are different and power settings and departure procedures would have had to be thought through in the process of accomplishing the briefing. The controller stated in a subsequent phone conversation that he should have noticed the flight taxiing on taxiway Z after he had cleared him into position on runway 23L.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE FLC TAXIED ONTO RWY 23R FOR TKOF WHEN CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD RWY 23L AFTER HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 23L AT CLE. THE ATIS STATED THE ARR RWY WAS RWY 23L AND THE DEPARTING RWY WAS RWY 23R.
Narrative: ATIS INFO AT XA54 (IN PART -- DEP RWY 23R LNDG RWY 23L). COMPLETED ALL DUTIES FOR ENG START AND PUSH BACK. CALLED FOR TAXI INSTRUCTIONS. GND INSTRUCTED #1 FOR TKOF RWY 23R TAXI UP TO HOLD SHORT RWY 23L ON RWY 28. COMPLETED ALL TKOF DUTIES AND BRIEFED FOR RWY 23R DEP. CHANGED TO TWR FREQ. TWR INSTRUCTED POS AND HOLD RWY 23. SHORTLY AFTER WE TAXIED INTO POS AND HOLDING TWR ADVISED US WE WERE ON THE INCORRECT RWY WHICH WAS RWY 23R. WE ASKED IF THERE WAS A CONFLICT AND ADVISED 'NO CONFLICT CLRED FOR TKOF.' ONCE AIRBORNE WE ASKED AGAIN IF ANY PAPERWORK NEEDED TO BE FILED. ADVISED BY TWR AGAIN 'NO HAVE A NICE DAY.' FLT PROCEEDED UNEVENTFULLY TO BWI, WHERE AFTER RELIEF FROM DUTY AND IN CONTACT WITH MY HOME, MY SPOUSE INFORMED ME CLE TWR HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH SCHEDULING AND A CALL WAS NEEDED TO CLE TWR. CONTACTED MY CHIEF PLT'S OFFICE THEN PLACED CALL TO CLE TWR, WHERE I WAS ADVISED THERE WAS A PROB AND I SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD 'THE MATTER WILL BE INVESTIGATED.' I CONTACTED CHIEF PLT'S OFFICE AGAIN AND MY REPRESENTATIVES. BOTH FO AND I WERE SURE OF OUR INSTRUCTIONS AND HAD BEEN FLYING A 3 DAY TRIP SEQUENCE, WHERE AT NO TIME IF EITHER WAS NOT IN AGREEMENT TO WHAT OUR INSTRUCTIONS WERE, THEY WERE CLARIFIED UNTIL WE WERE BOTH IN AGREEMENT. EVENING BEFORE WAS A REDUCED REST PERIOD. WE FELT CONFIDENT WE COMPLIED WITH ALL INSTRUCTIONS AND CLRNCS, HOWEVER, WE ARE CONCERNED DUE TO MINIMUM REST PERIOD WITH SHORT TIME IN HOTEL. THIS MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS ALLEDGED INCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED HE IS THE FIRST PLT IN A LONG TIME AT THIS AIRLINE WHO HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO CAPT IN THE B737-200 AND HAD NEVER BEEN A CAPT BEFORE. WITH THAT IN MIND, HE IS VERY CAREFUL TO WRITE ATIS AND CLRNCS DOWN AND BRIEF AS PER AIRLINE RECOMMENDED PROCS. HE STATED HIS FO AND HE WORK WELL TOGETHER, BUT THE FO HAS A STRONG FOREIGN ACCENT WHICH MAKES HIM DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE COPLT IS ACCUSED BY THE ATC SUPVR OF ACKNOWLEDGING CLRNC INTO POS ON RWY 23L, BUT NEITHER THE FO NOR THE CAPT RECALL HIM SAYING THAT AND THE COPLT DID NOT MEAN TO SAY THAT. THE RWY CHANGE WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A NEW BRIEFING IF HE HAD UNDERSTOOD THE RWY WAS CHANGED FROM THE RWY 23R TO RWY 23L BY COMPANY PROC. RWY LENGTHS ARE DIFFERENT AND PWR SETTINGS AND DEP PROCS WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH IN THE PROCESS OF ACCOMPLISHING THE BRIEFING. THE CTLR STATED IN A SUBSEQUENT PHONE CONVERSATION THAT HE SHOULD HAVE NOTICED THE FLT TAXIING ON TXWY Z AFTER HE HAD CLRED HIM INTO POS ON RWY 23L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.