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Attributes | |
ACN | 341651 |
Time | |
Date | 199607 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 34700 |
Environment | |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa tracon : pdx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 2 |
ASRS Report | 341651 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 25680 vertical : 1700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I cleared aircraft to sfo via pye and the arrival. Then I inadvertently stated maintain FL330 (aircraft was at FL350). I did not catch the readback because aircraft radios were poor. Traffic was quoted at 12 O'clock 5 mi sbound at FL330. At this point aircraft inbound to sfo had not begun descent. He started looking and descended anyways. Controllers are not perfect. Pilots should feel free to question a clearance if it puts them in conflict with another aircraft or even terrain.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC RADAR CTLR MISSPOKE ALT FOR ACR X TO MAINTAIN ON THE PYE ARR, THEN POINTED OUT TFC TO THE ACR. THE ACR SAID HE WAS LOOKING AND STARTED A SLOW DSCNT AND SEPARATION WAS LOST WITH ACFT B.
Narrative: I CLRED ACFT TO SFO VIA PYE AND THE ARR. THEN I INADVERTENTLY STATED MAINTAIN FL330 (ACFT WAS AT FL350). I DID NOT CATCH THE READBACK BECAUSE ACFT RADIOS WERE POOR. TFC WAS QUOTED AT 12 O'CLOCK 5 MI SBOUND AT FL330. AT THIS POINT ACFT INBOUND TO SFO HAD NOT BEGUN DSCNT. HE STARTED LOOKING AND DSNDED ANYWAYS. CTLRS ARE NOT PERFECT. PLTS SHOULD FEEL FREE TO QUESTION A CLRNC IF IT PUTS THEM IN CONFLICT WITH ANOTHER ACFT OR EVEN TERRAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.