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Attributes | |
ACN | 342250 |
Time | |
Date | 199607 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax artcc : zbw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15600 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 342250 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were flying B737-300 aircraft on visual approach to runway 24R at lax. First officer was flying aircraft. We were asked to follow jetstream aircraft that was on base leg, we were on downwind. Turning to final our aircraft flew through centerline to runway 24R. Another aircraft was on base to runway 25L and captain had this aircraft in sight at all times and instructed first officer to 'tighten up bank' which he did and re-intercepted final to runway 24R. During turn to final we had single RA 'monitor vertical speed.' first officer tracked centerline and completed stable approach to landing on runway 24R. We received no advisories or traffic information from ATC. Contributing factors include hazy conditions in smog with sun low in sky making it difficult to maintain visual with jetstream while looking into sun. I would suggest that during late afternoon and early evening approach control should vector aircraft for ILS approachs. Also this was last leg of 6 segments that included 2 scheduled aircraft changes while trying to maintain shuttle type turn times. This could have contributed to increased crew fatigue. First officer had 150 hours in type and in airline operations in general. Duty day was 12 hours 8 mins.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 OVERSHOOTS FINAL GOING TO RWY 24R AT LAX. HAZY SKY CONDITIONS ADD TO FLC PROB OF SEE AND AVOID.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING B737-300 ACFT ON VISUAL APCH TO RWY 24R AT LAX. FO WAS FLYING ACFT. WE WERE ASKED TO FOLLOW JETSTREAM ACFT THAT WAS ON BASE LEG, WE WERE ON DOWNWIND. TURNING TO FINAL OUR ACFT FLEW THROUGH CTRLINE TO RWY 24R. ANOTHER ACFT WAS ON BASE TO RWY 25L AND CAPT HAD THIS ACFT IN SIGHT AT ALL TIMES AND INSTRUCTED FO TO 'TIGHTEN UP BANK' WHICH HE DID AND RE-INTERCEPTED FINAL TO RWY 24R. DURING TURN TO FINAL WE HAD SINGLE RA 'MONITOR VERT SPD.' FO TRACKED CTRLINE AND COMPLETED STABLE APCH TO LNDG ON RWY 24R. WE RECEIVED NO ADVISORIES OR TFC INFO FROM ATC. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS INCLUDE HAZY CONDITIONS IN SMOG WITH SUN LOW IN SKY MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN VISUAL WITH JETSTREAM WHILE LOOKING INTO SUN. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT DURING LATE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING APCH CTL SHOULD VECTOR ACFT FOR ILS APCHS. ALSO THIS WAS LAST LEG OF 6 SEGMENTS THAT INCLUDED 2 SCHEDULED ACFT CHANGES WHILE TRYING TO MAINTAIN SHUTTLE TYPE TURN TIMES. THIS COULD HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO INCREASED CREW FATIGUE. FO HAD 150 HRS IN TYPE AND IN AIRLINE OPS IN GENERAL. DUTY DAY WAS 12 HRS 8 MINS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.