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Attributes | |
ACN | 343300 |
Time | |
Date | 199608 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ela |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar pilot : private |
Experience | controller non radar : 12 controller radar : 10 flight time total : 230 |
ASRS Report | 343300 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 21000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
The first MTR X aircraft was idu-psx at 11000 ft. The second MTR Y aircraft was east of idu radar vector 190 degrees for ngp at 10000 ft. When the first MTR X checked on and wanted a practice approach at 5r5, there was 6 mi separation between both aircraft, but I did not notice there was a 30 KT overtake. When the first MTR X started the descent, the second MTR Y caught the first MTR X on the back side. Closest proximity the aircraft got were 3.5 mi 500 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC RADAR CTLR DSNDED A MIL T44 THROUGH THE ALT OF ANOTHER MTR WITH LTSS.
Narrative: THE FIRST MTR X ACFT WAS IDU-PSX AT 11000 FT. THE SECOND MTR Y ACFT WAS E OF IDU RADAR VECTOR 190 DEGS FOR NGP AT 10000 FT. WHEN THE FIRST MTR X CHKED ON AND WANTED A PRACTICE APCH AT 5R5, THERE WAS 6 MI SEPARATION BTWN BOTH ACFT, BUT I DID NOT NOTICE THERE WAS A 30 KT OVERTAKE. WHEN THE FIRST MTR X STARTED THE DSCNT, THE SECOND MTR Y CAUGHT THE FIRST MTR X ON THE BACK SIDE. CLOSEST PROX THE ACFT GOT WERE 3.5 MI 500 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.