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Attributes | |
ACN | 343400 |
Time | |
Date | 199608 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : djb |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 24600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-8 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 15750 flight time type : 10850 |
ASRS Report | 343400 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending into dtw we were cleared to cross djb VOR at FL240. First officer was flying. While performing checklist and radio work I failed to monitor the first officer's descent accurately. Crossed djb VOR approximately 500-700 ft high. I was aware from previous dscnts that the first officer liked to reach the crossing point just as she was leveling at the required altitude. (I used to do the same thing.) this technique takes me out of my normal procedures because I need to back the PF up by close monitoring of altitude. In this case I was performing my normal procedures and didn't monitor close enough. A better technique is to reach your altitude a few mi early so one or the other or both pilots don't have to deviate from their normal procedures in order to be sure to make the assigned crossing restr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT XING RESTR NOT MET BY DC9 FLC. FO PF.
Narrative: DSNDING INTO DTW WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS DJB VOR AT FL240. FO WAS FLYING. WHILE PERFORMING CHKLIST AND RADIO WORK I FAILED TO MONITOR THE FO'S DSCNT ACCURATELY. CROSSED DJB VOR APPROX 500-700 FT HIGH. I WAS AWARE FROM PREVIOUS DSCNTS THAT THE FO LIKED TO REACH THE XING POINT JUST AS SHE WAS LEVELING AT THE REQUIRED ALT. (I USED TO DO THE SAME THING.) THIS TECHNIQUE TAKES ME OUT OF MY NORMAL PROCS BECAUSE I NEED TO BACK THE PF UP BY CLOSE MONITORING OF ALT. IN THIS CASE I WAS PERFORMING MY NORMAL PROCS AND DIDN'T MONITOR CLOSE ENOUGH. A BETTER TECHNIQUE IS TO REACH YOUR ALT A FEW MI EARLY SO ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH PLTS DON'T HAVE TO DEVIATE FROM THEIR NORMAL PROCS IN ORDER TO BE SURE TO MAKE THE ASSIGNED XING RESTR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.