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Attributes | |
ACN | 347307 |
Time | |
Date | 199608 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : scl |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Super DC-8 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 347307 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Aircraft has a 39000 pound load, according to santiago, chile, load agents repeated questioning that it was pounds, not kilos. Agents asserted that, yes it was definitely pounds. At cruise fuel score was way off and it was evident. We needed a fuel stop to continue to mia. Stopped in lima, peru, where it was verified that the load was kilos!! (2.21 pounds) that meant that we took off over runway limit and landed way above structural landing weight. The chilean auths are considering attempted manslaughter charges against the 3 load agents in santiago. The DC8-73 series will well handle a 43000 pound mistake on takeoff and climb, but in cruise it was evident we had some kind of problem, be it drag, center of gravity, or weight. We added speed to approach/landing bugs but the equation at that time had too many variables to really know what was wrong. Company has installed various procedures to ensure this will not happen again.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN ACR HVT EXCEEDED THE TKOF RWY LIMIT AND MAX LNDG WT DUE TO THE ACFT LOAD MANIFEST SHOWED LBS INSTEAD OF KILOS DURING PREFLT AT A FOREIGN ARPT.
Narrative: ACFT HAS A 39000 LB LOAD, ACCORDING TO SANTIAGO, CHILE, LOAD AGENTS REPEATED QUESTIONING THAT IT WAS LBS, NOT KILOS. AGENTS ASSERTED THAT, YES IT WAS DEFINITELY LBS. AT CRUISE FUEL SCORE WAS WAY OFF AND IT WAS EVIDENT. WE NEEDED A FUEL STOP TO CONTINUE TO MIA. STOPPED IN LIMA, PERU, WHERE IT WAS VERIFIED THAT THE LOAD WAS KILOS!! (2.21 LBS) THAT MEANT THAT WE TOOK OFF OVER RWY LIMIT AND LANDED WAY ABOVE STRUCTURAL LNDG WT. THE CHILEAN AUTHS ARE CONSIDERING ATTEMPTED MANSLAUGHTER CHARGES AGAINST THE 3 LOAD AGENTS IN SANTIAGO. THE DC8-73 SERIES WILL WELL HANDLE A 43000 LB MISTAKE ON TKOF AND CLB, BUT IN CRUISE IT WAS EVIDENT WE HAD SOME KIND OF PROB, BE IT DRAG, CTR OF GRAVITY, OR WT. WE ADDED SPD TO APCH/LNDG BUGS BUT THE EQUATION AT THAT TIME HAD TOO MANY VARIABLES TO REALLY KNOW WHAT WAS WRONG. COMPANY HAS INSTALLED VARIOUS PROCS TO ENSURE THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.