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Air carrier cleared as filed over hedly-phk-J81-etc. Filed route was over winco and this is the route set up and flown. Controller intervened and issued 010 degree heading to proceed over hedly. Dispatch was contacted to correct the filed route.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 348230 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199609 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dhp airport : mia |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : mia |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 348230 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Pre departure clearance clearance received: caf-mia hedly phk J81 irq J85 djb CETUS2 dtw. Mia 7 departure winco transition maintain 5000 ft expect request altitude 10 mins, etc. As the PF I set up the mia 7 departure winco transition. The fix hedly is not on this transition. The captain set in phk VOR a logical next fix after both winco and hedly. After takeoff right turn was given to 340 degree heading to intercept the transition. I thought he said winco transition but captain did not confirm this. I turned to 340 degrees and intercepted the dhp 322 degree radial at 11 DME. Within 2 mins departure control instructed us to turn right to 010 degrees to intercept the hedly transition. At this point the captain and I both wondered if the original clearance (340 degree to intercept) was for the hedly transition. We then referenced the pre departure clearance and rediscovered the discrepancy of (af mia hedly) versus (mia 7 winco transition). Captain called dispatch to fix same. We were and are still not sure what departure control really expected of us and/or if we flew 'as filed.' my interpretation of the clearance was to fly the winco transition and then get to hedly once finished.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR CLRED AS FILED OVER HEDLY-PHK-J81-ETC. FILED RTE WAS OVER WINCO AND THIS IS THE RTE SET UP AND FLOWN. CTLR INTERVENED AND ISSUED 010 DEG HDG TO PROCEED OVER HEDLY. DISPATCH WAS CONTACTED TO CORRECT THE FILED RTE.
Narrative: PDC CLRNC RECEIVED: CAF-MIA HEDLY PHK J81 IRQ J85 DJB CETUS2 DTW. MIA 7 DEP WINCO TRANSITION MAINTAIN 5000 FT EXPECT REQUEST ALT 10 MINS, ETC. AS THE PF I SET UP THE MIA 7 DEP WINCO TRANSITION. THE FIX HEDLY IS NOT ON THIS TRANSITION. THE CAPT SET IN PHK VOR A LOGICAL NEXT FIX AFTER BOTH WINCO AND HEDLY. AFTER TKOF R TURN WAS GIVEN TO 340 DEG HDG TO INTERCEPT THE TRANSITION. I THOUGHT HE SAID WINCO TRANSITION BUT CAPT DID NOT CONFIRM THIS. I TURNED TO 340 DEGS AND INTERCEPTED THE DHP 322 DEG RADIAL AT 11 DME. WITHIN 2 MINS DEP CTL INSTRUCTED US TO TURN R TO 010 DEGS TO INTERCEPT THE HEDLY TRANSITION. AT THIS POINT THE CAPT AND I BOTH WONDERED IF THE ORIGINAL CLRNC (340 DEG TO INTERCEPT) WAS FOR THE HEDLY TRANSITION. WE THEN REFED THE PDC AND REDISCOVERED THE DISCREPANCY OF (AF MIA HEDLY) VERSUS (MIA 7 WINCO TRANSITION). CAPT CALLED DISPATCH TO FIX SAME. WE WERE AND ARE STILL NOT SURE WHAT DEP CTL REALLY EXPECTED OF US AND/OR IF WE FLEW 'AS FILED.' MY INTERP OF THE CLRNC WAS TO FLY THE WINCO TRANSITION AND THEN GET TO HEDLY ONCE FINISHED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.