PA28-161 and a citation jet have a conflict near okk.

Attributes
ACN	351285
Time
Date	199610
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : okk
State Reference	IN
Altitude	msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 5500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : lit
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Cessna Citation Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 330 flight time type : 130
ASRS Report	351285
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 1500 vertical : 0
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was on a dual cross country with a student from laf to fwa. (We were a little south of course). We were cruising at the proper VFR altitude of 5500 ft MSL. We then saw a citation out of okk come screaming at us. We did not have time (or the speed) to really move out of its way. The citation flew by close enough for me to read the type of citation on the side of the aircraft about 1500 ft away. I'm not sure if they saw us or not, they didn't seem to veer off at all. About 5 mins after the event I looked down and noticed that my student and I forgot to switch the transponder from sby to altitude. This being the situation, the TCASII/tcad in the citation would not have went off. So if the citation pilots were completely relying on that system for aircraft avoidance they would not have known we were there.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PA28-161 AND A CITATION JET HAVE A CONFLICT NEAR OKK.

Narrative: I WAS ON A DUAL XCOUNTRY WITH A STUDENT FROM LAF TO FWA. (WE WERE A LITTLE S OF COURSE). WE WERE CRUISING AT THE PROPER VFR ALT OF 5500 FT MSL. WE THEN SAW A CITATION OUT OF OKK COME SCREAMING AT US. WE DID NOT HAVE TIME (OR THE SPD) TO REALLY MOVE OUT OF ITS WAY. THE CITATION FLEW BY CLOSE ENOUGH FOR ME TO READ THE TYPE OF CITATION ON THE SIDE OF THE ACFT ABOUT 1500 FT AWAY. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY SAW US OR NOT, THEY DIDN'T SEEM TO VEER OFF AT ALL. ABOUT 5 MINS AFTER THE EVENT I LOOKED DOWN AND NOTICED THAT MY STUDENT AND I FORGOT TO SWITCH THE XPONDER FROM SBY TO ALT. THIS BEING THE SIT, THE TCASII/TCAD IN THE CITATION WOULD NOT HAVE WENT OFF. SO IF THE CITATION PLTS WERE COMPLETELY RELYING ON THAT SYS FOR ACFT AVOIDANCE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN WE WERE THERE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.