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Attributes | |
ACN | 353973 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lga airport : ewr |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Xingu EMB-121 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 353973 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
I was captain of a part 135 flight from QRH to ewr. While on radar vectors and operating VFR, I received clearance from ny approach control to 'enter the class B at 2000 ft and remain clear of the westchester class D.' (we were 'going down the river.' a common approach into ewr when it is VFR. We fly down the hudson river at 2000 ft to the statue of liberty and the turn into ewr. It is spectacular for the passenger as well as the crew.) additionally, we received a TA regarding a saab 340 who was descending into westchester. The saab was at our 5 O'clock position and about 1000 ft below us. The first officer was flying and was concerned, and justifiably so, about descending too close to the saab. I was concerned about descending into the westchester class D. (The top of which is 2900 ft MSL.) we leveled off at 3000 ft and we were watching the saab as well as another aircraft that was on final approach to the south into westchester. I was trying to determine if we were clear of westchester airspace when the controller barked 'our call sign and asked what is your altitude!?' I responded '3000 ft' to which the controller, in a very stern and upset voice, replied 'I told you to enter the class B at 2000 ft not 3000 ft. I have IFR traffic departing westchester climbing to 3000 ft. Descend now to 2000 ft.' we started our descent and I checked the TCASII and saw no traffic on the TCASII. I advised the controller that we were attempting to remain clear of the class D and of the approaching traffic. I realized at that time that I had made a mistake. I did not monitor our position relative to the class B. The base of the class B in our area was 3000 ft. We were 18.6 NM from the lga VOR. The edge of the class B is at 20 NM. Human factors considerations: 1) I was tired for some reason. I had had plenty of sleep the night before but I was still tired. 2) my first officer was relatively new. He had never gone 'down the river.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UNAUTH PENETRATION OF CLASS B AIRSPACE BY AN EMB120 FLC IN A NIGHT OP. ALTDEV ALT UNDERSHOT IN DSCNT.
Narrative: I WAS CAPT OF A PART 135 FLT FROM QRH TO EWR. WHILE ON RADAR VECTORS AND OPERATING VFR, I RECEIVED CLRNC FROM NY APCH CTL TO 'ENTER THE CLASS B AT 2000 FT AND REMAIN CLR OF THE WESTCHESTER CLASS D.' (WE WERE 'GOING DOWN THE RIVER.' A COMMON APCH INTO EWR WHEN IT IS VFR. WE FLY DOWN THE HUDSON RIVER AT 2000 FT TO THE STATUE OF LIBERTY AND THE TURN INTO EWR. IT IS SPECTACULAR FOR THE PAX AS WELL AS THE CREW.) ADDITIONALLY, WE RECEIVED A TA REGARDING A SAAB 340 WHO WAS DSNDING INTO WESTCHESTER. THE SAAB WAS AT OUR 5 O'CLOCK POS AND ABOUT 1000 FT BELOW US. THE FO WAS FLYING AND WAS CONCERNED, AND JUSTIFIABLY SO, ABOUT DSNDING TOO CLOSE TO THE SAAB. I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT DSNDING INTO THE WESTCHESTER CLASS D. (THE TOP OF WHICH IS 2900 FT MSL.) WE LEVELED OFF AT 3000 FT AND WE WERE WATCHING THE SAAB AS WELL AS ANOTHER ACFT THAT WAS ON FINAL APCH TO THE S INTO WESTCHESTER. I WAS TRYING TO DETERMINE IF WE WERE CLR OF WESTCHESTER AIRSPACE WHEN THE CTLR BARKED 'OUR CALL SIGN AND ASKED WHAT IS YOUR ALT!?' I RESPONDED '3000 FT' TO WHICH THE CTLR, IN A VERY STERN AND UPSET VOICE, REPLIED 'I TOLD YOU TO ENTER THE CLASS B AT 2000 FT NOT 3000 FT. I HAVE IFR TFC DEPARTING WESTCHESTER CLBING TO 3000 FT. DSND NOW TO 2000 FT.' WE STARTED OUR DSCNT AND I CHKED THE TCASII AND SAW NO TFC ON THE TCASII. I ADVISED THE CTLR THAT WE WERE ATTEMPTING TO REMAIN CLR OF THE CLASS D AND OF THE APCHING TFC. I REALIZED AT THAT TIME THAT I HAD MADE A MISTAKE. I DID NOT MONITOR OUR POS RELATIVE TO THE CLASS B. THE BASE OF THE CLASS B IN OUR AREA WAS 3000 FT. WE WERE 18.6 NM FROM THE LGA VOR. THE EDGE OF THE CLASS B IS AT 20 NM. HUMAN FACTORS CONSIDERATIONS: 1) I WAS TIRED FOR SOME REASON. I HAD HAD PLENTY OF SLEEP THE NIGHT BEFORE BUT I WAS STILL TIRED. 2) MY FO WAS RELATIVELY NEW. HE HAD NEVER GONE 'DOWN THE RIVER.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.