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Attributes | |
ACN | 354432 |
Time | |
Date | 199611 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw airport : bishop pvt |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 14500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tower : cle |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Twin Otter DHC-6 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other descent other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 12 |
ASRS Report | 354432 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Aircraft X a local parachute jumper was dropping jumpers (2) from 14500 ft with parachutes opening at 13000 ft. Then again more jumpers at 8000 ft over kagle intersection, located on one of the busiest jet arrival rtes descending into the second busiest airport in the world -- dfw. As per LOA, jump aircraft are required to report when all jumpers are below 3500 ft. This allows for parachute termination advisories to be issued to arriving aircraft that are flying through the jump area. Aircraft X reported jumpers away at 14500 ft and 8000 ft. I issued the advisory to all other aircraft. Aircraft X reported that he was below 3500 ft and was changing frequency. I asked if all jumpers were below 3500 ft. He reported negative. The first 2 jumpers that opened early parachutes were only to about 10000 ft. I requested aircraft X remain on frequency until they were below 3500 ft. He replied they'll be down in about 3 or 4 mins. I reminded aircraft X of his requirement in the LOA and how do I know when the jump operation is terminated. At that point he terminated radio contact and landed. Dfw management and aircraft X have had several confrontations over this operation due to several near misses and unsafe reports. Aircraft X wants all aircraft (100's of them) to be vectored and delayed around his operation and displays that attitude on frequency. Dfw management has required controllers not to vector aircraft off the arrival because they think the drop zone is slightly north of the arrival course and shouldn't be a factor which is probably true if this was a perfect world and wind drift, electronic variations never happened. Jets are descending from 11000 ft to 5000 ft. Jumpers are doing the same. Management requires controllers not to vector, jumpers refuse to cooperate or provide required information. Who is responsible when a jumper crashes through the windshield of a DC10 and 200 people die, some poor controller trying to do their job with their hands tied?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CTLR AT DFW RPTS AN AIRSPACE CONGESTION PROB WITH SKYDIVERS ON THE BOWIE 1 STAR.
Narrative: ACFT X A LCL PARACHUTE JUMPER WAS DROPPING JUMPERS (2) FROM 14500 FT WITH PARACHUTES OPENING AT 13000 FT. THEN AGAIN MORE JUMPERS AT 8000 FT OVER KAGLE INTXN, LOCATED ON ONE OF THE BUSIEST JET ARR RTES DSNDING INTO THE SECOND BUSIEST ARPT IN THE WORLD -- DFW. AS PER LOA, JUMP ACFT ARE REQUIRED TO RPT WHEN ALL JUMPERS ARE BELOW 3500 FT. THIS ALLOWS FOR PARACHUTE TERMINATION ADVISORIES TO BE ISSUED TO ARRIVING ACFT THAT ARE FLYING THROUGH THE JUMP AREA. ACFT X RPTED JUMPERS AWAY AT 14500 FT AND 8000 FT. I ISSUED THE ADVISORY TO ALL OTHER ACFT. ACFT X RPTED THAT HE WAS BELOW 3500 FT AND WAS CHANGING FREQ. I ASKED IF ALL JUMPERS WERE BELOW 3500 FT. HE RPTED NEGATIVE. THE FIRST 2 JUMPERS THAT OPENED EARLY PARACHUTES WERE ONLY TO ABOUT 10000 FT. I REQUESTED ACFT X REMAIN ON FREQ UNTIL THEY WERE BELOW 3500 FT. HE REPLIED THEY'LL BE DOWN IN ABOUT 3 OR 4 MINS. I REMINDED ACFT X OF HIS REQUIREMENT IN THE LOA AND HOW DO I KNOW WHEN THE JUMP OP IS TERMINATED. AT THAT POINT HE TERMINATED RADIO CONTACT AND LANDED. DFW MGMNT AND ACFT X HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONFRONTATIONS OVER THIS OP DUE TO SEVERAL NEAR MISSES AND UNSAFE RPTS. ACFT X WANTS ALL ACFT (100'S OF THEM) TO BE VECTORED AND DELAYED AROUND HIS OP AND DISPLAYS THAT ATTITUDE ON FREQ. DFW MGMNT HAS REQUIRED CTLRS NOT TO VECTOR ACFT OFF THE ARR BECAUSE THEY THINK THE DROP ZONE IS SLIGHTLY N OF THE ARR COURSE AND SHOULDN'T BE A FACTOR WHICH IS PROBABLY TRUE IF THIS WAS A PERFECT WORLD AND WIND DRIFT, ELECTRONIC VARIATIONS NEVER HAPPENED. JETS ARE DSNDING FROM 11000 FT TO 5000 FT. JUMPERS ARE DOING THE SAME. MGMNT REQUIRES CTLRS NOT TO VECTOR, JUMPERS REFUSE TO COOPERATE OR PROVIDE REQUIRED INFO. WHO IS RESPONSIBLE WHEN A JUMPER CRASHES THROUGH THE WINDSHIELD OF A DC10 AND 200 PEOPLE DIE, SOME POOR CTLR TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB WITH THEIR HANDS TIED?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.