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Attributes | |
ACN | 355236 |
Time | |
Date | 199612 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gsh |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zob |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 355236 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
This was an IFR flight in a sel plane without deicing equipment. The plane accumulated a trace to light rime ice -- mostly on the elevator, at several points en route. There were no control problems and the flight ended without incident. There was an airmet for light to moderate rime icing but PIREPS mentioned only a trace of icing and ceilings were generally 20-30 overcast with good visibility (according to forecasts). There are 2 issues here: 1) how does one determine when icing in a particular location is known, ie, what is the definition of 'known icing.' 2) how to be safe when flying in an area where there is widespread potential for ice. I don't know the answer to item #1 -- just a comment: to not fly whenever ice might be possible would preclude winter IFR flying in small planes. As for safety, I, perhaps, should have terminated the flight before flying into an area of such widespread icing potential. There wasn't an easy out if there had been any problems, with icing or otherwise. The forecast didn't sound bad to me, but getting caught without an easy way out was very uncomfortable. The conclusion: flying a small plane when icing is possible requires a plan of escape in case conditions become dangerous.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PVT INST RATED PLT OF AN SMA SEL FLEW INTO FORECASTED AND ACTUAL ICING CONDITIONS WITHOUT ANY ANTI- OR DEICE EQUIP FOR DISPOSING OF THE ICE. UNDER PART 91 OPS, THERE ARE NO STIPULATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS FOR ACFT ICE REMOVAL. KNOWN ICING CONDITIONS ARE JUST WHAT IT IMPLIES, SUCH AS RECENT PIREP OR OBSERVATIONS.
Narrative: THIS WAS AN IFR FLT IN A SEL PLANE WITHOUT DEICING EQUIP. THE PLANE ACCUMULATED A TRACE TO LIGHT RIME ICE -- MOSTLY ON THE ELEVATOR, AT SEVERAL POINTS ENRTE. THERE WERE NO CTL PROBS AND THE FLT ENDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. THERE WAS AN AIRMET FOR LIGHT TO MODERATE RIME ICING BUT PIREPS MENTIONED ONLY A TRACE OF ICING AND CEILINGS WERE GENERALLY 20-30 OVCST WITH GOOD VISIBILITY (ACCORDING TO FORECASTS). THERE ARE 2 ISSUES HERE: 1) HOW DOES ONE DETERMINE WHEN ICING IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION IS KNOWN, IE, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF 'KNOWN ICING.' 2) HOW TO BE SAFE WHEN FLYING IN AN AREA WHERE THERE IS WIDESPREAD POTENTIAL FOR ICE. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO ITEM #1 -- JUST A COMMENT: TO NOT FLY WHENEVER ICE MIGHT BE POSSIBLE WOULD PRECLUDE WINTER IFR FLYING IN SMALL PLANES. AS FOR SAFETY, I, PERHAPS, SHOULD HAVE TERMINATED THE FLT BEFORE FLYING INTO AN AREA OF SUCH WIDESPREAD ICING POTENTIAL. THERE WASN'T AN EASY OUT IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY PROBS, WITH ICING OR OTHERWISE. THE FORECAST DIDN'T SOUND BAD TO ME, BUT GETTING CAUGHT WITHOUT AN EASY WAY OUT WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. THE CONCLUSION: FLYING A SMALL PLANE WHEN ICING IS POSSIBLE REQUIRES A PLAN OF ESCAPE IN CASE CONDITIONS BECOME DANGEROUS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.