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Attributes | |
ACN | 357090 |
Time | |
Date | 199612 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 357090 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on a downwind vector (050 degree heading, 4000 ft MSL, 190 KTS) for an lda a approach to lga's runway 22. WX conditions: 7000 ft broken, visibility 7 mi, wind 240 degrees at 5 KTS. New york approach control called 'traffic 11 O'clock, 3000 ft, a fokker,' and asked if we had the traffic. Both the captain and I saw traffic at our 10 O'clock position and below us on what looked to us as being on final for runway 22 at lga. We acknowledged the traffic and were given clearance for a visual approach to cross runway 22 with an altitude restr to cross 11 DME (lga) at or above 3000 ft MSL. Our position at this time was approximately 10.7 - 10.8 DME from lga. We turned base leg (heading approximately 310 degrees magnetic) at 4000 ft MSL. Once established on base we started a descent toward 3000 ft. While in the turn we were told to contact the tower and I switched to lga tower. At 3800 ft MSL we received a TCASII warning and the display showed traffic 800 ft below, descending at our 3 - 3:30 O'clock position. I looked out my side window and saw the traffic. I immediately called stop descent (no RA alert sounded). At this point, we climbed back to 4000 ft but continued the turn towards final course. We tried several attempts to notify lga tower of the conflict. Once they realized the situation, heading and altitude instructions were given. We circled back around for another visual approach and landed. Human performance considerations: our perception of traffic given, the controller's perception of traffic given to us, and the confusion of both parties. Actions were immediate and self correcting. Prevention of this happening again will come about with heightened situational awareness from both parties.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG FOLLOWED THE WRONG ACFT ON A VISUAL APCH AND HAD A CONFLICT AND A TCASII TA WITH ANOTHER ACFT.
Narrative: WE WERE ON A DOWNWIND VECTOR (050 DEG HDG, 4000 FT MSL, 190 KTS) FOR AN LDA A APCH TO LGA'S RWY 22. WX CONDITIONS: 7000 FT BROKEN, VISIBILITY 7 MI, WIND 240 DEGS AT 5 KTS. NEW YORK APCH CTL CALLED 'TFC 11 O'CLOCK, 3000 FT, A FOKKER,' AND ASKED IF WE HAD THE TFC. BOTH THE CAPT AND I SAW TFC AT OUR 10 O'CLOCK POS AND BELOW US ON WHAT LOOKED TO US AS BEING ON FINAL FOR RWY 22 AT LGA. WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE TFC AND WERE GIVEN CLRNC FOR A VISUAL APCH TO CROSS RWY 22 WITH AN ALT RESTR TO CROSS 11 DME (LGA) AT OR ABOVE 3000 FT MSL. OUR POS AT THIS TIME WAS APPROX 10.7 - 10.8 DME FROM LGA. WE TURNED BASE LEG (HDG APPROX 310 DEGS MAGNETIC) AT 4000 FT MSL. ONCE ESTABLISHED ON BASE WE STARTED A DSCNT TOWARD 3000 FT. WHILE IN THE TURN WE WERE TOLD TO CONTACT THE TWR AND I SWITCHED TO LGA TWR. AT 3800 FT MSL WE RECEIVED A TCASII WARNING AND THE DISPLAY SHOWED TFC 800 FT BELOW, DSNDING AT OUR 3 - 3:30 O'CLOCK POS. I LOOKED OUT MY SIDE WINDOW AND SAW THE TFC. I IMMEDIATELY CALLED STOP DSCNT (NO RA ALERT SOUNDED). AT THIS POINT, WE CLBED BACK TO 4000 FT BUT CONTINUED THE TURN TOWARDS FINAL COURSE. WE TRIED SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO NOTIFY LGA TWR OF THE CONFLICT. ONCE THEY REALIZED THE SIT, HDG AND ALT INSTRUCTIONS WERE GIVEN. WE CIRCLED BACK AROUND FOR ANOTHER VISUAL APCH AND LANDED. HUMAN PERFORMANCE CONSIDERATIONS: OUR PERCEPTION OF TFC GIVEN, THE CTLR'S PERCEPTION OF TFC GIVEN TO US, AND THE CONFUSION OF BOTH PARTIES. ACTIONS WERE IMMEDIATE AND SELF CORRECTING. PREVENTION OF THIS HAPPENING AGAIN WILL COME ABOUT WITH HEIGHTENED SITUATIONAL AWARENESS FROM BOTH PARTIES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.