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Attributes | |
ACN | 357980 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ipl |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 357980 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 357979 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight was operating from san-dtw. We were climbing to FL370. Encountered turbulence approximately FL340-FL345. ZLA asked if we were requesting FL330 or FL370. We asked about the rides and got clearance to FL370. We were handed off to another frequency. When level at FL370 and on the new frequency, the flight crew had thoughts about whether we were originally cleared to FL330 or FL370. ATC didn't make any comments. Possible readback/hearback situation. Supplemental information from acn 357979: approaching FL340, center asked us if we would like FL370. We said we would and continued our climb to FL370. We got the impression maybe we weren't cleared to FL370. We got a frequency change and were not able to pursue the issue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT IN CLB. INFLT ENCOUNTER WITH CLR AIR TURB.
Narrative: FLT WAS OPERATING FROM SAN-DTW. WE WERE CLBING TO FL370. ENCOUNTERED TURB APPROX FL340-FL345. ZLA ASKED IF WE WERE REQUESTING FL330 OR FL370. WE ASKED ABOUT THE RIDES AND GOT CLRNC TO FL370. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO ANOTHER FREQ. WHEN LEVEL AT FL370 AND ON THE NEW FREQ, THE FLC HAD THOUGHTS ABOUT WHETHER WE WERE ORIGINALLY CLRED TO FL330 OR FL370. ATC DIDN'T MAKE ANY COMMENTS. POSSIBLE READBACK/HEARBACK SIT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 357979: APCHING FL340, CTR ASKED US IF WE WOULD LIKE FL370. WE SAID WE WOULD AND CONTINUED OUR CLB TO FL370. WE GOT THE IMPRESSION MAYBE WE WEREN'T CLRED TO FL370. WE GOT A FREQ CHANGE AND WERE NOT ABLE TO PURSUE THE ISSUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.