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Attributes | |
ACN | 358532 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bwi |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bwi |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 358532 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Coming out of bwi we were issued runway 28 and the paleo departure. After takeoff we contacted departure telling the controller we were on runway heading and climbing to 2000 ft. The controller asked if we were given a heading and we replied no. He asked twice before, giving us a new heading. Later into the flight we had a chance to get another look at the departure profile and noticed that we misread the after takeoff instructions. It starts out with runway heading but at the 3 DME we were to turn left to a heading of 150 degrees. Traffic was very light and all this did not seem to cause any problems, but there is a chance we may have gone beyond the 3 DME limit before the controller gave us the turn. At that time bwi airport was having transmitter problems which added to the confusion. I would like to see more controller cooperation with pilots to quickly get us back on course and discuss it later. The sids and stars are becoming too complicated and are difficult to understand. If you don't have the time to study one at length, there is a good chance you may misinterpret something. As we all know, a pilot in the cockpit is always doing more than one thing at any given time, which leaves little time for studying a SID or STAR.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TWIN JET CHARTER FLC HDG TRACK POS DEV ON SID DEP PROC IN A NIGHT OP.
Narrative: COMING OUT OF BWI WE WERE ISSUED RWY 28 AND THE PALEO DEP. AFTER TKOF WE CONTACTED DEP TELLING THE CTLR WE WERE ON RWY HDG AND CLBING TO 2000 FT. THE CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE GIVEN A HDG AND WE REPLIED NO. HE ASKED TWICE BEFORE, GIVING US A NEW HDG. LATER INTO THE FLT WE HAD A CHANCE TO GET ANOTHER LOOK AT THE DEP PROFILE AND NOTICED THAT WE MISREAD THE AFTER TKOF INSTRUCTIONS. IT STARTS OUT WITH RWY HDG BUT AT THE 3 DME WE WERE TO TURN L TO A HDG OF 150 DEGS. TFC WAS VERY LIGHT AND ALL THIS DID NOT SEEM TO CAUSE ANY PROBS, BUT THERE IS A CHANCE WE MAY HAVE GONE BEYOND THE 3 DME LIMIT BEFORE THE CTLR GAVE US THE TURN. AT THAT TIME BWI ARPT WAS HAVING XMITTER PROBS WHICH ADDED TO THE CONFUSION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE CTLR COOPERATION WITH PLTS TO QUICKLY GET US BACK ON COURSE AND DISCUSS IT LATER. THE SIDS AND STARS ARE BECOMING TOO COMPLICATED AND ARE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO STUDY ONE AT LENGTH, THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE YOU MAY MISINTERPRET SOMETHING. AS WE ALL KNOW, A PLT IN THE COCKPIT IS ALWAYS DOING MORE THAN ONE THING AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WHICH LEAVES LITTLE TIME FOR STUDYING A SID OR STAR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.