<< >> NASA ASRS Report 359787, January 1997

An air carrier B737-300 pilot reports that there are confusing and contradictory lines painted on the ramp at her air carrier's gates at slc.

Attributes
ACN	359787
Time
Date	199701
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : slc
State Reference	UT
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-300
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 4000
ASRS Report	359787
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Airport
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
Airport	other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

Slc gate X (and others) have no indication of safe taxi zone but do have very visible remnants of old guidance lines with no relevance. Rain and dark compound danger of ground damage to aircraft and personnel. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: this gate at slc is 'probably' for the exclusive use of the reporter's air carrier. The air carrier ground safety representative told the reporter that the air carrier had complained to the airport about the condition of the lines. The response was that no paint would be added until spring as the paint would not stick if done now (january). The reporter has not talked to her air carrier, but has talked to her union safety committee. A marshaller is always used at this gate. The marshaller on this day was under training. The reporter stopped her aircraft as she thought that she was getting bad instructions from the marshaller.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR B737-300 PLT RPTS THAT THERE ARE CONFUSING AND CONTRADICTORY LINES PAINTED ON THE RAMP AT HER ACR'S GATES AT SLC.

Narrative: SLC GATE X (AND OTHERS) HAVE NO INDICATION OF SAFE TAXI ZONE BUT DO HAVE VERY VISIBLE REMNANTS OF OLD GUIDANCE LINES WITH NO RELEVANCE. RAIN AND DARK COMPOUND DANGER OF GND DAMAGE TO ACFT AND PERSONNEL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THIS GATE AT SLC IS 'PROBABLY' FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF THE RPTR'S ACR. THE ACR GND SAFETY REPRESENTATIVE TOLD THE RPTR THAT THE ACR HAD COMPLAINED TO THE ARPT ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE LINES. THE RESPONSE WAS THAT NO PAINT WOULD BE ADDED UNTIL SPRING AS THE PAINT WOULD NOT STICK IF DONE NOW (JANUARY). THE RPTR HAS NOT TALKED TO HER ACR, BUT HAS TALKED TO HER UNION SAFETY COMMITTEE. A MARSHALLER IS ALWAYS USED AT THIS GATE. THE MARSHALLER ON THIS DAY WAS UNDER TRAINING. THE RPTR STOPPED HER ACFT AS SHE THOUGHT THAT SHE WAS GETTING BAD INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE MARSHALLER.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.