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Attributes | |
ACN | 359790 |
Time | |
Date | 199701 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bdr airport : lga |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5400 msl bound upper : 5400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other ground : preflight |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : v475 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-34-200 Seneca I |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 359790 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While 10 NM northeast of bdr VOR on V475 descending out of 6000 ft to 5000 ft at 5400 ft, we avoided hitting what was believed to be a seneca descending from our 10 O'clock position, heading towards our 4 O'clock position. With no time to respond we simultaneously grabbed the yoke, pulling the autoplt to disconnect. This aircraft had no lights on whatsoever and no transponder. We advised new york approach of the near miss and he only responded that he did not see anything, but a few seconds later he did advise us that he was showing a primary target at our 4 O'clock position. This area bdr airport and surrounding airspace is constantly dangerous. It always conflicts with lga's arrs. Approach descends all traffic to the low altitudes and at least once a month an aircraft passing over this area is telling new york approach that they're responding to a RA. There are too many small aircraft over this airspace without xponders, and unfortunately this is just a few mi north of the 30 mi transponder, requirement. It should be extended north.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN LGT DSNDING AND A PIPER SENECA, PA34 XING THROUGH THE LGT'S FLT PATH.
Narrative: WHILE 10 NM NE OF BDR VOR ON V475 DSNDING OUT OF 6000 FT TO 5000 FT AT 5400 FT, WE AVOIDED HITTING WHAT WAS BELIEVED TO BE A SENECA DSNDING FROM OUR 10 O'CLOCK POS, HEADING TOWARDS OUR 4 O'CLOCK POS. WITH NO TIME TO RESPOND WE SIMULTANEOUSLY GRABBED THE YOKE, PULLING THE AUTOPLT TO DISCONNECT. THIS ACFT HAD NO LIGHTS ON WHATSOEVER AND NO XPONDER. WE ADVISED NEW YORK APCH OF THE NEAR MISS AND HE ONLY RESPONDED THAT HE DID NOT SEE ANYTHING, BUT A FEW SECONDS LATER HE DID ADVISE US THAT HE WAS SHOWING A PRIMARY TARGET AT OUR 4 O'CLOCK POS. THIS AREA BDR ARPT AND SURROUNDING AIRSPACE IS CONSTANTLY DANGEROUS. IT ALWAYS CONFLICTS WITH LGA'S ARRS. APCH DSNDS ALL TFC TO THE LOW ALTS AND AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH AN ACFT PASSING OVER THIS AREA IS TELLING NEW YORK APCH THAT THEY'RE RESPONDING TO A RA. THERE ARE TOO MANY SMALL ACFT OVER THIS AIRSPACE WITHOUT XPONDERS, AND UNFORTUNATELY THIS IS JUST A FEW MI N OF THE 30 MI XPONDER, REQUIREMENT. IT SHOULD BE EXTENDED N.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.