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An air carrier ATR42 crew taxied past an unexpected 'hold short' line. They were reminded by the ATCT that they had passed the line. Error admitted. Night operation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 360642 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199702 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pvd |
| State Reference | RI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | ATR 42 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 2700 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 360642 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
We were told to taxi and hold short of runway 5. We read back and understood hold short instruction. The hold short line was actually located on the taxiway prior to the taxiway which intersects the runway. We taxied slightly past the line but stopped at the ground controller's reminder to hold short. We believe the mistake occurred because we did not observe any illuminated hold short signs at the line, and we expected the hold line to be located on the taxiway immediately preceding the runway. A phone call by the captain to the controller revealed that this was a common mistake spot. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter flies the ATR42. He has since been back to pvd with two other capts, both of whom agree that the hold short line is in an unexpected place and needs highlighting. The reporter believes that a flashing arrow might do the job. The reporter was taxiing to runway 34 on taxiway C. See analyst graphic. The reporter has heard nothing from the FAA on this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR ATR42 CREW TAXIED PAST AN UNEXPECTED 'HOLD SHORT' LINE. THEY WERE REMINDED BY THE ATCT THAT THEY HAD PASSED THE LINE. ERROR ADMITTED. NIGHT OP.
Narrative: WE WERE TOLD TO TAXI AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 5. WE READ BACK AND UNDERSTOOD HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTION. THE HOLD SHORT LINE WAS ACTUALLY LOCATED ON THE TXWY PRIOR TO THE TXWY WHICH INTERSECTS THE RWY. WE TAXIED SLIGHTLY PAST THE LINE BUT STOPPED AT THE GND CTLR'S REMINDER TO HOLD SHORT. WE BELIEVE THE MISTAKE OCCURRED BECAUSE WE DID NOT OBSERVE ANY ILLUMINATED HOLD SHORT SIGNS AT THE LINE, AND WE EXPECTED THE HOLD LINE TO BE LOCATED ON THE TXWY IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE RWY. A PHONE CALL BY THE CAPT TO THE CTLR REVEALED THAT THIS WAS A COMMON MISTAKE SPOT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR FLIES THE ATR42. HE HAS SINCE BEEN BACK TO PVD WITH TWO OTHER CAPTS, BOTH OF WHOM AGREE THAT THE HOLD SHORT LINE IS IN AN UNEXPECTED PLACE AND NEEDS HIGHLIGHTING. THE RPTR BELIEVES THAT A FLASHING ARROW MIGHT DO THE JOB. THE RPTR WAS TAXIING TO RWY 34 ON TXWY C. SEE ANALYST GRAPHIC. THE RPTR HAS HEARD NOTHING FROM THE FAA ON THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.